|
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1915973)
I think the point is that travel benefits can be a huge determining factor in selecting an airline, regional or otherwise. The list isn't to try and impress anyone, it's intended to show that they are important.
Working for Another regional would not allow myself and family the lifestyle we want. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1915973)
I think the point is that travel benefits can be a huge determining factor in selecting an airline, regional or otherwise. The list isn't to try and impress anyone, it's intended to show that they are important.
Working for Another regional would not allow myself and family the lifestyle we want. As it is said... haters gona hate. |
I'm not sure I understand the attraction towards medium-high and low priority standby unless you're single and never travel with anyone; even then it's a crap shoot. Eagle had the best system with the ability to check flight loads, but even then there were always people gaming the system, the methods of which I won't go into here. It was always so much fun to book on a green flight (wide open) and then show up to have it totally in the red (oversold) only a few hours later.
Anyways, it's nice to be able to JS to get yourself to and from work, but other than that... I don't see it as some great benefit. Just my .02 of course. |
Originally Posted by Bootleg
(Post 1915954)
I understand that whenever there were 4 separate Eagles, Wings West treated pilots pretty good. But there was hatred for the Wings guys from the Simmons guys and something called the East Texas Mafia.
Thoughts? The "East Texas Mafia" was a label coined to describe the then MEC, most of whom were Texas "good 'ole boys" firmly entrenched with and quite cozy with Eagle (Metro/Simmons) management. |
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
(Post 1915966)
That's a rather glib statement. I think that for you, off duty travel shouldn't be a significant factor. I love my travel benefits and my family, I laws and friends use them extensively. It is one of the major reasons I joined this profession.
In the past 12 months we have: Gone diving in Central America Been to London 2 times Been to Ireland 3 times Gone to Texas for wedding Surfing in Cali (6 times) Spent two weekends in Chicago. My extended family has: Gone to Europe 3 times Been to China (twice) Gone to NJ We've used AA, USAirways, Delta, United, Aer Lingus, British Airways. We've been first or business class on all of them except BA. We are going to Hawaii, Sydney, and New Zealand next spring. We typically spend one weekend a month traveling and love it. My travel benefits are extremely important to me and being considered as AA for CASS has been a huge plus. Being able to Jumpseat international has significantly reduced the price. These benefits also play a huge part in where I'm willing to work. I know pilots at other regionals who have the ability (and HAVE) to travel just like you do. Envoy isn't in a vacuum when it comes to this benefit. |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1915995)
Yes, this is all fine and nice and I'm not (nor WAS) disputing that. My point was that for a new pilot selecting a regional, this should NOT be at the top of the list or even among the top. Compensation (pay/401(k)) and work rules (QOL) along with advancement potential, stability (keeping that advancement, let alone job) and treatment should all be above non-rev travel, at least if one is smart and in my opinion.
I know pilots at other regionals who have the ability (and HAVE) to travel just like you do. Envoy isn't in a vacuum when it comes to this benefit. Mesa pilots cannot even non rev on AA right now, let alone their family. Their USair benefits are lacking for families as well - priority well below an envoy family. Most of the non wholly owneds have crap travel benefits compared to the wholly owneds. If you are someone that got into this to enjoy travel, I would say a WO has much more value as a result. |
Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
(Post 1915996)
Dude every chance you can to bash envoy.....I am really starting to question who you are.
Mesa pilots cannot even non rev on AA right now, let alone their family. Their USair benefits are lacking for families as well - priority well below an envoy family. Most of the non wholly owneds have crap travel benefits compared to the wholly owneds. If you are someone that got into this to enjoy travel, I would say a WO has much more value as a result. |
Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
(Post 1915996)
Dude every chance you can to bash envoy.....I am really starting to question who you are.
Mesa pilots cannot even non rev on AA right now, let alone their family. Their USair benefits are lacking for families as well - priority well below an envoy family. Most of the non wholly owneds have crap travel benefits compared to the wholly owneds. If you are someone that got into this to enjoy travel, I would say a WO has much more value as a result. |
Originally Posted by hijo
(Post 1915971)
^^^^ Nobody cares. Save your travel list to impress your non-aviation friends on fb.
|
Originally Posted by Bpflyerone
(Post 1915976)
Some people just don't like to travel. Why they fly airplanes for a living I have no idea.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I love to travel, but find when I have a few days off I prefer to relax at home. Traveling all the time can be tiresome. |
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:30 AM. |
Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands