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Cujo665 06-04-2015 07:26 PM

Some of the news will be out in the morning. The rest will come later.

N927EV 06-04-2015 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1896009)
Some of the news will be out in the morning. The rest will come later.

How much later?

PilotCrusader 06-04-2015 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1896026)
How much later?

A little later. Sooner than much later but not as soon as the sooner news.

LeadFoot 06-05-2015 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1896009)
Some of the news will be out in the morning. The rest will come later.


News about what?

FirstClass 06-05-2015 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by LeadFoot (Post 1896115)
News about what?

The down grades.

JohnnyDingus 06-05-2015 05:25 AM

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eaglefly 06-05-2015 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1895808)
I wouldn't look too much into the "desperation" as you call it. As much as I hate DUI Doug and Co. when they say they're going to do something, they do it.

You're right in terms of choosing a regional and I would never recommend everyone to come to envoy or jump-ship in a lateral move. But it's not a bad place. If I could roll back the clock 8 years and go to republic, PSA, PDT, skywest, TSA, GoJet, AWAC, or any other I don't think I would change a thing. Upgrading quickly isn't everything, but maybe that's just me.

Look, I'm not saying Envoy is a bad pkace, just that considering how this segment if the industry will change so dramatically over the next few years, it is impossible to accurately predict which regional is the best RIGHT NOW in terms of ugrades or even flow-throughs in 2-3 years. Any bombshell announcements at Envoy cannot he deemed successful for a year or two to see how the rest of the industry reacts and whether such strategies truly succeed or fail. If history is any teacher, pilots shoukdn't succumb to knee-jerk employment decisions.

eaglefly 06-05-2015 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1895817)
Yup, AMR f'd them for sure with the A-Fund. Notice how I said AMR, not AAG. Listen man, it's not called a lost-decade for nothing. People got hosed big time, nobody is arguing that. However, I would hardly say that the past-precident of a defunct management should be the reason why someone does not put value in our flow. Is it perfect? No way. But it's what we have, it's not too bad, and it's working as advertised.

I've never stated the present or future Envoy flows were worthless. They are however, uncertain. AAG could announce a cradle-to-grave plan for Envoy, but that is only a plan and for it to work , they have to get those pilots in the door. No pilots, no viable plan and that's just one aspect. There are many other uncontrollable factors and believing every single one will go rightt over the next half decade or more is folly in my opinion.

diva 06-05-2015 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1896172)
The down grades.

At this point you've lost all credibility by spreading too many lies. No one belives you anymore.

Buzzlightyear 06-05-2015 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1896332)
At this point you've lost all credibility by spreading too many lies. No one belives you anymore.

At what point did anyone ever believe what he said?


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