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08-04-2014 | 02:45 PM
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There is actually no way the upgrade could come down significantly as a result of these negotiations. They're offering us aircraft in 2016 as the 2015 aircraft are allocated to Compass. We will continue to lose airframes until at least that point.
08-04-2014 | 03:24 PM
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LMAO!!!! This is the best post I have read yet!! I am in total shock at the way you folks treat each other let alone work together and try to fly an aircraft in a safe manner. I was just invited to an interview at Envoy and I think I rather jump out a FU*KING window then come work here.....
08-04-2014 | 03:39 PM
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LMAO!!!! This is the best post I have read yet!! I am in total shock at the way you folks treat each other let alone work together and try to fly an aircraft in a safe manner. I was just invited to an interview at Envoy and I think I rather jump out a FU*KING window then come work here.....
08-04-2014 | 03:45 PM
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LMAO!!!! This is the best post I have read yet!! I am in total shock at the way you folks treat each other let alone work together and try to fly an aircraft in a safe manner. I was just invited to an interview at Envoy and I think I rather jump out a FU*KING window then come work here.....
08-04-2014 | 03:47 PM
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A friend of mine died three weeks ago. He was older than me...! He had a 14 year old daughter and 12 year old son and a wife of 20 years. He went jogging with his daughter and dropped dead of a heart attack in front of her. Wasn't over-weight, no previous illness, ... paramedics worked on him for 50 minutes. Life is precious and I expect if he had the opportunity to look back...he might not have done some things in his life and he probably would have treasured some events that at the time he thought were inconsequential --
Seeing his young son at the funeral. Hearing he was going to Oshkosh with his Grampa and not his dad.... It stops you in your tracks...gives you new perspective. Even my worst day is better than ... So -
There are so many people posting here simply complaining. If it is so bad here and opportunities are so great elsewhere....LEAVE. LEAVE NOW!!! Why are you waiting. If you're young, you have your whole career ahead of you. Maybe you've only been here a few years. JUST move...go to where you will be happy ... LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO LIVE IN AGONY! If you're more senior and think you "can't move", find something else to do with your life that gives you happiness!! I'm serious...make decisions that make you happy...whatever that is for you. Don't waste your life being unhappy!!!
Now, if all you are doing is sitting in your chair, ****ed off and wanting to whine and complain...remember this. YOU CHOOSE TO BE HERE. Contrary to popular demand, you are not a slave to ENVOY. You have the right to leave.
Which are you? Do you have the guts to leave? To take responsibility for your life? To embrace change? Or can you change your attitude and contribute something positive? Because the endless complaining really doesn't accomplish much...and second guessing decisions made also is water under the bridge!
Just saying .... because life is TOO short to be in the place where so many have placed themselves! Go find happiness --- whatever that is for you!
Seeing his young son at the funeral. Hearing he was going to Oshkosh with his Grampa and not his dad.... It stops you in your tracks...gives you new perspective. Even my worst day is better than ... So -
There are so many people posting here simply complaining. If it is so bad here and opportunities are so great elsewhere....LEAVE. LEAVE NOW!!! Why are you waiting. If you're young, you have your whole career ahead of you. Maybe you've only been here a few years. JUST move...go to where you will be happy ... LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO LIVE IN AGONY! If you're more senior and think you "can't move", find something else to do with your life that gives you happiness!! I'm serious...make decisions that make you happy...whatever that is for you. Don't waste your life being unhappy!!!
Now, if all you are doing is sitting in your chair, ****ed off and wanting to whine and complain...remember this. YOU CHOOSE TO BE HERE. Contrary to popular demand, you are not a slave to ENVOY. You have the right to leave.
Which are you? Do you have the guts to leave? To take responsibility for your life? To embrace change? Or can you change your attitude and contribute something positive? Because the endless complaining really doesn't accomplish much...and second guessing decisions made also is water under the bridge!
Just saying .... because life is TOO short to be in the place where so many have placed themselves! Go find happiness --- whatever that is for you!
08-04-2014 | 04:05 PM
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Honestly, I am being sarcastic but it really makes one wonder what the heck is going on out there in the real world. It seems that the crowd is overly bitter and cranky and that sets a horrible precedence for the cockpit. How can one enjoy a days work if we are teamed up with one of these cats that has only horrible things to say?? I mean I know things are tough and that the pay is terrible and all but we choose to be where we are. No one has forced us to accept these positions. We put ourselves in them. I believe that we must take the good with the bad and make the best out of it. At the end of the day we are granted the privilege to do that one thing we all love to do and that's soar the skies in a cool jet! At least that's the way I see it. I know there is a lot more to it as I have spent hours reading about the problems at hand but man, its as simple as walking away if its to much for the individuals to handle. We all have the power to make our own choices and if things are unacceptable to the individual than its best to just move on and find that happiness. *****ing and moaning isn't going to get us any closer to the happiness we should ALL have!! My opinion of course. I guess by the same token if one chooses to live an angry and cranky ass life it absolutely their prerogative. To all those out there looking for that dream job, always remember that KFC has manager positions making $60K a year!!! LOLOL!!! LETS ALL BE HAPPY!!!!!! (like the song says) 
08-04-2014 | 04:15 PM
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Honestly, I am being sarcastic but it really makes one wonder what the heck is going on out there in the real world. It seems that the crowd is overly bitter and cranky and that sets a horrible precedence for the cockpit. How can one enjoy a days work if we are teamed up with one of these cats that has only horrible things to say?? I mean I know things are tough and that the pay is terrible and all but we choose to be where we are. No one has forced us to accept these positions. We put ourselves in them. I believe that we must take the good with the bad and make the best out of it. At the end of the day we are granted the privilege to do that one thing we all love to do and that's soar the skies in a cool jet! At least that's the way I see it. I know there is a lot more to it as I have spent hours reading about the problems at hand but man, its as simple as walking away if its to much for the individuals to handle. We all have the power to make our own choices and if things are unacceptable to the individual than its best to just move on and find that happiness. *****ing and moaning isn't going to get us any closer to the happiness we should ALL have!! My opinion of course. I guess by the same token if one chooses to live an angry and cranky ass life it absolutely their prerogative. To all those out there looking for that dream job, always remember that KFC has manager positions making $60K a year!!! LOLOL!!! LETS ALL BE HAPPY!!!!!! (like the song says)
Absolutely ridiculous.
08-04-2014 | 04:23 PM
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I have a question, and prefer not to be flamed or trolled. Yes the company is shrinking airplane wise... But I would think if Envoy is losing more pilots than it is replacing (and I'd expect this trend would continue if not get worse) wouldn't upgrade times go down in the coming years? I assume most people leaving are captains and they need to be replaced. So more FO's get upgraded and new hires like myself would see shorter upgrade times. Right??
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