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Old 07-22-2014, 08:08 PM
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Not trying to flame, but why are some of you thinking about coming to this mess we call envoy?
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:40 PM
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Have you heard about "denial mode"??? Look for it on the PBS training.

It's being working great because not everybody is doing the trials. I'm in the 40s in MIA and I get 3days in PBS. I know people more senior than me that are not doing the trials. So at the end I will finish with worse schedules and less days off.

I do the trials so JR people gets to see a little bit more reality.

PBS sucks, the company wants it, it's not good for us. USAir don't line te software because doesn't give them more control, so I would say VOTE no on Pbs, that's Tony propaganda and will bite us.

I rather have a Paycut but able to keep bidding lines, because at the end either way you will lose money and QOL.
So thats the nuclear option. When I can find a trainer I"ll have to ask him about that. All I know is in my Eaglevoy CA bid status in ORD our participation rate is about 90%, as best I can tell, and with the last two bid runs, PBS built a schedule that was much better than my actual award, a schedule vs RSV, even though I bid 78 out of 89. I just think I must be missing something.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:44 PM
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I received the pre-offer from Envoy yesterday. I was told they'd call me Friday after the captain's board meeting to find out if I'll receive the official offer. Is this anything to sweat? I only have about 120 instrument and my 6 month proficiency window just passed so I'm a little concerned they won't like that.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:49 PM
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I personally don't think PBS has a ghost of a chance of passing. Be it people who just want to say NO to everything the company passes along, to those who lose more with PBS than hard lines, to people who don't want change... I just see no way of PBS passing
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:07 PM
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PBS is a non issue - look for it to be absorbed into a new TA
Reality is this: PBS is industry standard so good luck holding out. Better - need to be crafting duty rigs to blunt the ill effects POSSIBLE if left unchecked. That is where we should be spending time
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:13 AM
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Yep. If they could negotiate duty rigs and min day pay, PBS would be wonderful.
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:52 AM
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Not trying to flame, but why are some of you thinking about coming to this mess we call envoy?
To live in base or hopefully have an easy commute. I live near MCO. Does anyone know how the commute is from MCO to MIA?
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Old 07-23-2014, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by theycallmered View Post
To live in base or hopefully have an easy commute. I live near MCO. Does anyone know how the commute is from MCO to MIA?
Lots and lots of commuters on that route plus full flights in general. Lots of Envoy and AA commuters so if that's something you do give yourself plenty of backups especially on 1st year probation.
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To live in base or hopefully have an easy commute. I live near MCO. Does anyone know how the commute is from MCO to MIA?
I agree with Skyline. Tons of commuters with very full flights most of the time. If it's possible to move 2 hours from MIA, I would do that and drive. Around holiday time, expect to rent a car often.
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To live in base or hopefully have an easy commute. I live near MCO. Does anyone know how the commute is from MCO to MIA?
Getting to and from MIA from anywhere can be pretty tough. My first 8 months i commuted to MIA from OKC 2 leg. Was always battling other commuters trying to get everywhere out of MIA, plus the whole full flight thing since its a tourist destination and south america gateway.
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