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tunes 10-27-2014 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1754129)
Oooh did I hit a nerve there little guy? Hahaha. PSA vermin come out of the woodwork quick on this one. You guys don't want to go back to scraping out the bottom of the barrel for a 70% pass rate. Heaven forbid we stopped the reversing of a seniority list at your expense. You know damn well YOU are the whipsaw! You are taking off the bottom of every good standing carrier and don't deserve to be flying a model airplane, let alone a Cessna.

the fact that you are so vested in the regional shenanigans is quite pathetic.

RJ Pilot 10-27-2014 11:54 AM

Is it true that envoy FO's are bailing for PSA? The same ones that voted NO?

PilotCrusader 10-27-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1754127)
Is that the scenic route of saying that you'll be selling out on the next vote. Good grounds for the excuses later on though. Keep at it! Wouldn't be as comical if you weren't such a tool in your previous posts about not giving a cent back.

So that's all you have? I am a tool because I was adamant about not giving a cent? Yup. I was wrong. That was then. Now it is apparent it is better to help my young FOs here than force them to go work with you guys. It's just icing on he cake (ALOT of icing) that it hoses you in the process. Touché! I hate that it has come to this trust me; capitulating to a greedy profitable management like you did.

skyxbomb 10-27-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1754135)
So that's all you have? I am a tool because I was adamant about not giving a cent? Yup. I was wrong. That was then. Now it is apparent it is better to help my young FOs here than force them to go work with you guys. It's just icing on he cake (ALOT of icing) that it hoses you in the process. Touché! I hate that it has come to this trust me; capitulating to a greedy profitable management like you did.

Right... I did that to you. LoL now you're all caring about your FOs? What a nice guy!!

TallFlyer 10-27-2014 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1754132)
Is it true that envoy FO's are bailing for PSA? The same ones that voted NO?

I'm in class with a no voter now. I don't know how many are in the class that started today.

skypilot35 10-27-2014 12:32 PM

I think the majority of your pilot group recognized that as a possibility. I would imagine that there will be some regionals who cave in the future, but PSA cannot absorb all of Envoy's flying. There is no regional that can. I am sure there will be some initial movement of guys chasing the flying, but as an industry the movement will eventually settle; unless pilots continue to take concessions.

embraer 10-27-2014 02:04 PM

PilotCrusader,

You are on the right track. It's about time we do what is right for us at Envoy and not worry about other airlines. Other airlines who are always drooling over our flying.

Don't pick fights with PSA at this point, either. Lets focus on getting the best deal possible over the next few weeks and focus on the progression of our careers. If you want I can PM you the letter I sent to both DFW reps....I spoke with Kyle today as well.

Take care, man.

Bzzt 10-27-2014 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1754188)
PilotCrusader,

You are on the right track. It's about time we do what is right for us at Envoy and not worry about other airlines. Other airlines who are always drooling over our flying.

Don't pick fights with PSA at this point, either. Lets focus on getting the best deal possible over the next few weeks and focus on the progression of our careers. If you want I can PM you the letter I sent to both DFW reps....I spoke with Kyle today as well.

Take care, man.

Hopefully Kyle and Igou pull their heads out of their posteriors and realize we need to cut a deal. I'm not optimistic.

embraer 10-27-2014 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1754192)
Hopefully Kyle and Igou pull their heads out of their posteriors and realize we need to cut a deal. I'm not optimistic.

You should be ;)

Give them a call. I think you would be pleasantly surprised. A lot has changed since earlier this year. Including people's opinions and perceptions.

buddies8 10-27-2014 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1754132)
Is it true that envoy FO's are bailing for PSA? The same ones that voted NO?

You mean the yes voters are not bailing out?


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