Need Advice - Comparing Offers-Express/Envoy
08-09-2014 | 07:20 AM
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Rj pilot I have a feeling you already knew that but, it's for the little kiddies out there to see it.
08-09-2014 | 12:21 PM
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Sure thing. Invariably, the ultimate question this thread will probably evolve into is: "Who should I work for?" We argue about that day and night on these boards, but allow me to humbly offer my suggestions. Keep in mind this is as of right now; things could be different in a year.
Mesa - Fast upgrade time, stable, growing, modern fleet.
Compass - Pretty much the same as Mesa.
SkyWest - This is sort of the opposite in that it's not growing and you'll have a very long upgrade (~7 years as of now). However, many of my friends have elected to go here for its well respected treatment of employees.
Horizon - Excellent pay (at least compared to other regionals). Long upgrade, however.
One other deciding factor for you might be the bases these regionals have. I live in Phoenix, so naturally Mesa was an obvious choice for me. Again, this is my humble 2 cents, do your own homework, and best of luck.
Mesa - Fast upgrade time, stable, growing, modern fleet.
Compass - Pretty much the same as Mesa.
SkyWest - This is sort of the opposite in that it's not growing and you'll have a very long upgrade (~7 years as of now). However, many of my friends have elected to go here for its well respected treatment of employees.
Horizon - Excellent pay (at least compared to other regionals). Long upgrade, however.
One other deciding factor for you might be the bases these regionals have. I live in Phoenix, so naturally Mesa was an obvious choice for me. Again, this is my humble 2 cents, do your own homework, and best of luck.
08-09-2014 | 01:04 PM
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Come to Endeavor be at delta in 4-5 years!!! Guaranteed!
08-09-2014 | 01:20 PM
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LOL
Need I say more? Nothing is guaranteed in this industry. Period! EtoD included.
Don't forget the QOL potential. Live in domicile.
And I agree, this industry is posed to change dramatically (even within the regional industry). Do what makes sense for you right now, don't count on tomorrow, be flexible and willing to move where it makes sense. TPIC might not be as important in 2 years as it is now (I've had friends hired at majors without it).
Set your sights on a major from the beginning...for a 20 something...don't aim at a career in the regionals.
Learn to fly a UAV (a joke, or maybe not)?!!
Good luck. You really are at the front end of what will be a wave!!
Don't forget the QOL potential. Live in domicile.
And I agree, this industry is posed to change dramatically (even within the regional industry). Do what makes sense for you right now, don't count on tomorrow, be flexible and willing to move where it makes sense. TPIC might not be as important in 2 years as it is now (I've had friends hired at majors without it).
Set your sights on a major from the beginning...for a 20 something...don't aim at a career in the regionals.
Learn to fly a UAV (a joke, or maybe not)?!!
Good luck. You really are at the front end of what will be a wave!!
08-09-2014 | 09:44 PM
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I left XJT for CPZ after 1 year and couldn't be happier. I forgot what it felt like to have hope....
08-10-2014 | 05:16 AM
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I will also add....
When you get to your regional dont be content just flying the line. Do something that sets you apart from the other 11,000 apps that the majors have on file. Think of all the things you can do that will build your résumé and earn you points. We have had a few lower time FOs leave XJT for legacies bc of their résumés.
When you get to your regional dont be content just flying the line. Do something that sets you apart from the other 11,000 apps that the majors have on file. Think of all the things you can do that will build your résumé and earn you points. We have had a few lower time FOs leave XJT for legacies bc of their résumés.
09-21-2014 | 07:57 PM
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Hadn't seen all the new posts on this thread. Thanks for the information everyone, it's appreciated. Particularly the one explaining to me the importance of not having a main b*tch early on. I'll be sure to keep that advice close to my heart.
That being said, I felt I should address this post.
We had a very extensive tour of Delta's headquarters, everything from their training facilities (pilot and FA) to their food court/mini-mall area. I also managed to snag a 1/2 hour of full motion 777 sim time while I was there. So yeah.
That being said, I felt I should address this post.
Unless you plan to make a career at a regional, don't go to a career regional. Go where there is growth and movement. Ignore "guaranteed" job offers. If they need people so bad that they're trying to lock you in now, that should be a warning sign. Big LOL at "tour the Delta Facilities". XJT has no access to any Delta Facilities, except maybe the concourse C bag room at ATL. Don't be swindled.
09-21-2014 | 08:06 PM
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I will also add....
When you get to your regional dont be content just flying the line. Do something that sets you apart from the other 11,000 apps that the majors have on file. Think of all the things you can do that will build your résumé and earn you points. We have had a few lower time FOs leave XJT for legacies bc of their résumés.
When you get to your regional dont be content just flying the line. Do something that sets you apart from the other 11,000 apps that the majors have on file. Think of all the things you can do that will build your résumé and earn you points. We have had a few lower time FOs leave XJT for legacies bc of their résumés.
Only thing notable things I have currently are mostly collegiate. GPA (3.8), Double major of Flight Operations (our pilot program) and Aviation Management (with an airline concentration) and a business administration minor. And president of a student organization.
Other than that, working on my second year as an aircraft maintenance assistant at the university's hangars.
Looking to get some multi-engine internships in the near future, but that'd be corporate in nature of course.
10-27-2015 | 06:52 PM
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I am in a similar situation as the original post, trying to decide between ExpressJet and Envoy. I've interviewed with both and have conditional offers from both. A lot has changed in a year, anyone have any good updates? Thanks!
10-27-2015 | 07:13 PM
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Sure thing. Invariably, the ultimate question this thread will probably evolve into is: "Who should I work for?" We argue about that day and night on these boards, but allow me to humbly offer my suggestions. Keep in mind this is as of right now; things could be different in a year.
Mesa - Fast upgrade time, stable, growing, modern fleet.
Compass - Pretty much the same as Mesa.
SkyWest - This is sort of the opposite in that it's not growing and you'll have a very long upgrade (~7 years as of now). However, many of my friends have elected to go here for its well respected treatment of employees.
Horizon - Excellent pay (at least compared to other regionals). Long upgrade, however.
One other deciding factor for you might be the bases these regionals have. I live in Phoenix, so naturally Mesa was an obvious choice for me. Again, this is my humble 2 cents, do your own homework, and best of luck.
Mesa - Fast upgrade time, stable, growing, modern fleet.
Compass - Pretty much the same as Mesa.
SkyWest - This is sort of the opposite in that it's not growing and you'll have a very long upgrade (~7 years as of now). However, many of my friends have elected to go here for its well respected treatment of employees.
Horizon - Excellent pay (at least compared to other regionals). Long upgrade, however.
One other deciding factor for you might be the bases these regionals have. I live in Phoenix, so naturally Mesa was an obvious choice for me. Again, this is my humble 2 cents, do your own homework, and best of luck.
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