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diva 12-08-2014 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1779025)
This deal will not change PSA, we were never getting e-jets.

You were very vocal about how voting yes to concessions was wrong, scummy, etc. Now it's ok because "we think it's best for us?"

10 000+ pilots at Eagle, RAH, Silver, XJT said NO but you still selfishly bend over, said yes and ruined it for all of us. I'm not saying people should vote yes or no. We will vote what's best for us. Keep your opinion to yourself.

billyho 12-08-2014 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1779021)
pagey, relax... Take some deep breaths... No reason to panic just cause Envoy got a offer with E-jets in it. I know you want us to vote no so you can get our deal. We will vote what WE think is best for US. Relax...


Hahahahahahah! And this guy was preaching to the Piedmont Pilots. Lovely! Just Lovely.

Enjoy your E-Jets! Hahahahahahahaha

Don't worry Diva! After all the crap you talked your sh$t sandwich you're about too eat will taste much worse the PSA's and PDT's. This is great!!!

billyho 12-08-2014 06:59 PM

Wait till Republic's SenecaII jumps in here. Wonder where he is??

pagey 12-08-2014 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1779113)
10 000+ pilots at Eagle, RAH, Silver, XJT said NO but you still selfishly bend over, said yes and ruined it for all of us. I'm not saying people should vote yes or no. We will vote what's best for us. Keep your opinion to yourself.

You don't keep your opinions to yourself but everyone else should?

billyho 12-08-2014 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1723762)
I agree with Ed Striker. Piedmont pilots are soon to realize what a mistake it was to fall for management's scare tactics. The whole industry is watching.

gulp!!!! LOL Oh this is great!

billyho 12-08-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 1725606)
I read where you said Piedmont would not be lowering the bar. I provided evidence otherwise. You shot back with insurance premiums and work rules, and I used numbers you provided to show you that your example wasn't really that impressive.

It's pretty clear by now that you're willing to accept concessions from a company awash in record profits for new shiny jets. And, to hell with everyone else. Would you at least just admit it and stop trying to justify the concessions?

So V1 are you guys lowering the bar now???


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1726739)
When are you going to back off ?? How do you justify fooling your pilot group to vote yes just so you can keep your management seat ?? I hope Piedmont pilots are smarter and don't fall for managements bs !!!

Double gulp! I hope you Envoy guys are smarter and don't fall for his bs! Hahahahahaha


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1727047)
Just had a American union guy on jump seat expressing how disgusted they are at PSA setting the low bar for the regional industry and how they're NOT welcome to mainline. Piedmont pilots... You're next up on that list and the word is spreading quickly. Go ahead and fall for this TA. They're all watching you closely. You can be sorry later...

So I guess Mainline American is going to be mad at you guys now! Hahahaha


Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy (Post 1727328)
They do, and its because the AA pilot group is next. They have been watching very closely, players tactics, responses, all important to them.

When you ask for Delta rates, you don't do without knowing who your dealing with and what kind of union busters management is currently working with.

But being a management cheerleader and official spokes person, you should know that.

Shooting Ducks in a Barrel!!!

Lvlng4Spd 12-08-2014 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 1779113)
10 000+ pilots at Eagle, RAH, Silver, XJT said NO but you still selfishly bend over, said yes and ruined it for all of us. I'm not saying people should vote yes or no. We will vote what's best for us. Keep your opinion to yourself.

Are your pants around your ankles yet? Here is a fresh take...PDT has applied for a 175 cert also. It may be a few years, but what makes you think you won't be flying for us eventually anyway, even with a yes vote? Leef voor uw oorzaak, sterven in een brand ;)

billyho 12-08-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd (Post 1779154)
Are your pants around your ankles yet? Here is a fresh take...PDT has applied for a 175 cert also. It may be a few years, but what makes you think you won't be flying for us eventually anyway, even with a yes vote? Leef voor uw oorzaak, sterven in een brand ;)

Wait Wait Wait.. Here it comes!! The Envoy Pilots will vote for what's best for them. Blahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

buddies8 12-08-2014 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1779098)
So word is Vote this or eny shutsdown. The MEC knows something the rest of the commoners don't..


Good Luck.

MEC knows nothing more than we do. Moak cut the deal.

Voting NO again.

billyho 12-08-2014 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1779160)
MEC knows nothing more than we do. Moak cut the deal.

Voting NO again.

There will be a bunch of people saying there voting "No." But I say it will pass by about 70%. Just think if it don't pass and all those shiny 175's will go to all those carriers that can't staff them.


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