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eaglefly 12-08-2014 10:19 AM

Wow !

Looks like the last deal but with fewer jets and a payoff. Looks like certain senior captains will be making less and less each year now. That's terrible. :eek:

But........."Good Luck" ;)

RJ Pilot 12-08-2014 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1778775)
Wow !

Looks like the last deal but with fewer jets and a payoff. Looks like certain senior captains will be making less and less each year now. That's terrible. :eek:

But........."Good Luck" ;)


"............. and heeeeeerrreeeeeeeee is *****."

amcnd 12-08-2014 10:25 AM

This TA is a perfect set up for AA. They get the high paying Captains out.. (To AA) and dont have to replace them. As the CRJ700's go to PSA and the E145's to PDT/XJT/TSA. Then the 175's arrive in a year or so. And bam. New Cheap Captains on the 12/4 scale...

billyho 12-08-2014 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 1778785)
This TA is a perfect set up for AA. They get the high paying Captains out.. (To AA) and dont have to replace them. As the CRJ700's go to PSA and the E145's to PDT/XJT/TSA. Then the 175's arrive in a year or so. And bam. New Cheap Captains on the 12/4 scale...

And this will help subsidize that fat pay you'll make at mainline.:eek:

eaglefly 12-08-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1778777)
"............. and heeeeeerrreeeeeeeee is *****."

Good Luck. :rolleyes:

Systemized 12-08-2014 10:39 AM

Will captains currently on property below 12 years longevity be capped at 12 years? Will guys between 12-17 years have their pay frozen/capped? What is the average seniority of guys currently flowing to AA?

Tsuda 12-08-2014 11:05 AM

16 year guys are flowing now.

Flaps9 12-08-2014 11:22 AM

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See attachment for PDF of changes.......

amcnd 12-08-2014 11:45 AM

So the flow is the lesser or 50% or 20 per class. So AA is hiring 100 a month. Thas 20 Eagle pilots pr 50?? The fleet commitment scares me. Only 40 E175's. Thats ~500 pilots total.... Im convinced all 50 seaters will go away to other airlines...

ccjaxpilot 12-08-2014 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 1778835)
So the flow is the lesser or 50% or 20 per class. So AA is hiring 100 a month. Thas 20 Eagle pilots pr 50?? The fleet commitment scares me. Only 40 E175's. Thats ~500 pilots total.... Im convinced all 50 seaters will go away to other airlines...

It's a typo. The term sheet has it right. It's 50% or meter to 20. 30 when the first 175 shows up.


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