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weekendflyer 12-08-2014 07:04 AM

Ya'll need to vote no....your bringing down this industry!

babs 12-08-2014 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by weekendflyer (Post 1778650)
Ya'll need to vote no....your bringing down this industry!

Says the PSA scumbag...

pagey 12-08-2014 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1778648)
Billy, all the guys I speak with have no ill will toward PDT. We knew ya'll were in a tough spot. It's the PSA guys who started this downward spiral.

How was PDT in a tougher spot than PSA?

Both had aging fleets with expiring leases/life cylces.

Both were told they would be shutdown if they voted no.

Both were of similar size.

PDTpilotXX 12-08-2014 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1778658)
How was PDT in a tougher spot than PSA?

Both had aging fleets with expiring leases/life cylces.

Both were told they would be shutdown if they voted no.

Both were of similar size.

2017 shut down.
36 planes here.
No more parts for our planes etc etc
Very different.

billyho 12-08-2014 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1778658)
How was PDT in a tougher spot than PSA?

Both had aging fleets with expiring leases/life cylces.

Both were told they would be shutdown if they voted no.

Both were of similar size.

LOL! PDT was way worse off then PSA. Too Funny there. Good Try.

tunes 12-08-2014 07:29 AM

I'd just like to see one envoy person take responsibility for their actions rather than blame it on another pilot group....PSA is such scum....yet we are about to vote in something worse than them...but we did it because we had to...they are still scum....

skypilot35 12-08-2014 07:31 AM

They have not voted it in yet.

pagey 12-08-2014 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 1778663)
2017 shut down.
36 planes here.
No more parts for our planes etc etc
Very different.

You can't "etc etc" facts. What are they?

You had 36 acft. Ok. PSA had 47.

2017 shutdown? PSA was told 2019 would be our end.

I agree you guys had no choice but to vote yes but how could you possibly say PSA had a choice when you just went through exactly what we did?

BoilerUP 12-08-2014 07:38 AM

I'd wager to say PSA's CRJs (the same ones they got when they originally threw ALG/PDT under the bus over a decade ago, in a scenario eerily reminiscent to this one) were a wee bit newer and shorter in the tooth than Piedmont's Dashes.

Al Czervik 12-08-2014 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by ccjaxpilot (Post 1778571)
PSA and Piedmont took away our leverage. They couldn't shrink everyone if we all said NO.

Leverage was lost when the B scale was moved off mainline property.


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