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tom11011 12-08-2014 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1778547)
That's what it actually came down to; the company showed tangible proof that a shutdown was planned. This TA, while concessionary, is still better than what PSA has. Of course, if those scumbags had not signed one first, we would not be here faced with cuts or no jobs. I truly hope those yes voters rot in hell.

No you have to hold the line, no other way.

PilotCrusader 12-08-2014 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1778551)
No you have to hold the line, no other way.

Where do you work?

wiz5422 12-08-2014 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1778547)
That's what it actually came down to; the company showed tangible proof that a shutdown was planned. This TA, while concessionary, is still better than what PSA has. Of course, if those scumbags had not signed one first, we would not be here faced with cuts or no jobs. I truly hope those yes voters rot in hell.

If true that tangible proof needs to be shared with us at road shows, we need all information to make our vote, not just "they said so."

tom11011 12-08-2014 04:31 AM

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FLYZERG 12-08-2014 04:34 AM

What does the furlough protection you have now afford you? Is it just a few months pay or is it actually worth something? Is it a something they will take away with the TA?

AdiosMikeFox 12-08-2014 04:48 AM

If Envoy votes this in PSA and PDT can still keep their ID's backwards.

We aren't voting on this knowingly taking someone else's aircraft. We aren't voting on this knowingly expecting our co-workers to to take concessions to make our deal happen.

AdiosMikeFox 12-08-2014 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by FLYZERG (Post 1778556)
What does the furlough protection you have now afford you? Is it just a few months pay or is it actually worth something? Is it a something they will take away with the TA?


Furlough protection wasn't mentioned. But it makes no difference, they'd shut us down before they'd furlough.

slough 12-08-2014 04:54 AM

[QUOTE=AdiosMikeFox;1778561]We aren't voting on this knowingly expecting our co-workers to to take concessions to make our deal happen.[/QUOTE

Huh?

Bob Loblaw 12-08-2014 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by motormadness (Post 1778382)
If this TA passes, every single Envoy pilot owes every PSA pilot an apology.

PDT, maybe. PSA no ****ing way. They are the cause of this disaster.

billyho 12-08-2014 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 1778561)
If Envoy votes this in PSA and PDT can still keep their ID's backwards.

We aren't voting on this knowingly taking someone else's aircraft. We aren't voting on this knowingly expecting our co-workers to to take concessions to make our deal happen.

Blahahahahahahahahaahah! Keep telling yourself that and maybe you'll actually make yourself believe it because the PSA/PDT people sure won't. This is good stuff! Welcome to the party guys jump on in the water is still nice and warm.


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