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Originally Posted by Coneydog (Post 1827802)

When Brownstreak voted in concessions, they knew they were doing it at the expense of another pilot group. Eagle tried to hold the line, and PSA undercut them. Wasn't the first time PSA has done this to another pilot group. That's the difference.

Exactly. You wanted PSA to basically close the place down, just so you Eagle guys could feel better about yourselves.... that's not how it works. PSA voted down previous offers and were punished when US sent 900s to Mesa. Its unfortunate the situation Envoy has been put into, but its not PSA's fault. It's years and years of poor leadership at Envoy that has led to this entire situation. You got to do whats best for you, not what someone else wants you do. The true bottom feeders out there (Mesa, GoJet, Republic) were out there to try and swoop up the flying should PSA, Envoy, Piedmont not have played ball. It's just business. The whole regional model is broken, but to go around and try to blame PSA for the failures of Envoy is disingenuous.

oh look another thread that goes to talking about PSA

I guess PSA guys throwing stones believed the threats and promises. I never believe either.

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Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1827810)

Um...I think you misread my post.

Uhhh just because he said brownstreak doesn't mean he was taking a shot at the PSA pilots. No need to rehash the Envoy vs PSA discussion again for the 1000th time.

Sorry to hear the news, I've been displaced multiple times out of my base and sent back to commuting and it sucks. It has been a tough stretch but hopefully brighter days are ahead for the Envoy guys once the 175s show up.

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Originally Posted by Dunkin (Post 1827835)

Looks like the company and ALPA are back on the table. Flow and "career to AA" did not brough applicants and NH as they thought.

Smells like some QOL might get better eventually.

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Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 1827814)

oh look another thread that goes to talking about PSA

Well, that escalated quickly. I think Bric killed a guy.

So what is Mason32 going to do now?

Goodluck!

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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1827879)

Looks like the company and ALPA are back on the table. Flow and "career to AA" did not brough applicants and NH as they thought.

Smells like some QOL might get better eventually.

No matter what happens you guys always start some sort of rumor that "things will get better". The writing is on the wall, it's not getting any better. For your sake quit deluding yourself and get out of there.