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cartean 02-19-2015 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by wareagle (Post 1828185)
You PSA guys didn't vote to save your jobs, you voted to take airplanes from Eagle and hasten your upgrades because it was a good career opportunity. It's as simple as that. Eagle had freshly rejected the company when you guys volunteered for the concessions. To deny this is a lie.


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Bzzt 02-19-2015 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 1828392)
And it isn't like daddy Doug was going to put the 900's at Envoy either. They would of just gone to Mesa more than likely.

The 900s were offered to Eagle as part of a B scale deal which was turned down by the MEC.

Flubber 02-19-2015 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1828442)
Air Wisconsin were the same way when they though they were going to receive a bunch of Endeavor birds and help Delta with their regional whipsaw.

How many PCL pilots would have been put out on the street by Air Willy flying those planes? Also, how would that have helped with the whipsawing... have all the other DCon carriers match AW's pay scale in 18 months? :D :D :D

"Don't believe it 'til you're sitting in it with a signed release in your mitts."

skyxbomb 02-19-2015 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1828429)
They may not have known the 700s were coming but when they were announced, psa was awful.gleeful about it.

You're telling me you don't have at least two less than average intelligence, pathetic excuse of a pilot/ human being in your company? Like the two dummies from our company gloating on Facebook at the expense of another pilot group?

Surprisingly, most of us are not lemmings. Just because one person works for a certain company, doesn't automatically qualify that person to be categorized along with YOUR prejudices and stereotypes. I can't believe I have to explain this to anyone but apparently some of you might be surprised by this fact.

spaaks 02-19-2015 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1828442)
That's the way it is everywhere. When skywest, ASA/ExpressJet, GoJet, started receiving the Comar birds there was a lot of selfish celebrating with little regard to the newly unemployed Comair pilots. Air Wisconsin were the same way when they though they were going to receive a bunch of Endeavor birds and help Delta with their regional whipsaw. Heck, how may tail numbers does Skywest/ASA operate that came from different airlines. Regional pilots are self serving

The difference being Skywest/Asa didn't stab anyone in the back to get those tail numbers, let alone do it intentionally knowing it would hurt someone else! When you voted yes, you knew exactly what you were going to do to the eagle pilot group that was trying to hold the line

ontheramp 02-19-2015 09:54 PM

I didn't vote, scab anyone or gleefully laugh at anything. I got hired, perform the duties that I'm supposed to and get paid for it. When one of you guys saying I took your planes wants to feed my family, clothe my family and finance my living expenses then you can have a say in my choice of employment. And please don't tell me about bringing down the industry, no one is forcing you to stay, there are no locks on the door.

I fly PSA's airplanes for a joke of a paycheck, the future is in moving on. Stop lying to yourself that anyone really cares that you come on here and anonymously try to drown the post in hatred. For the haters out there, this is capitalism at its best, the company that does it for the lest gets the contract. WE are our own worst enemies.....we tell the bosses through this forum our secrets and the union has no teeth. Do your job at the highest level at all times, if that's not possible, go get a real job that you REALLY have to work at!

Until then shut the fack up! PSA management negotiated the contract an we JUST FLY THE EFFING PLANES!

450knotOffice 02-19-2015 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by ontheramp (Post 1828527)
I didn't vote, scab anyone or gleefully laugh at anything. I got hired, perform the duties that I'm supposed to and get paid for it. When one of you guys saying I took your planes wants to feed my family, clothe my family and finance my living expenses then you can have a say in my choice of employment. And please don't tell me about bringing down the industry, no one is forcing you to stay, there are no locks on the door.

I fly PSA's airplanes for a joke of a paycheck, the future is in moving on. Stop lying to yourself that anyone really cares that you come on here and anonymously try to drown the post in hatred. For the haters out there, this is capitalism at its best, the company that does it for the lest gets the contract. WE are our own worst enemies.....we tell the bosses through this forum our secrets and the union has no teeth. Do your job at the highest level at all times, if that's not possible, go get a real job that you REALLY have to work at!

Until then shut the fack up! PSA management negotiated the contract an we JUST FLY THE EFFING PLANES!

Gonna save this so ontheramp can't back out and delete this later on.

Probably one of the least informed posts I've read in a long time.

ontheramp 02-19-2015 11:06 PM

Maybe You should be more concerned about flying yourAirbus. It's obvious you want to distinguish yourself.

ontheramp 02-19-2015 11:11 PM

And backing out or deleting.....I truly don't give a rats @&$ what anyone thinks. I come in do the job and my life starts when I'm on the way home. 450....you must have a lot of time on your hands

Paid2fly 02-20-2015 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1827783)
Somebody gets it.









Yup, too bad the two of you don't!


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