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-   -   Envoy closes 3 bases in 3 years. 2 left! (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/87050-envoy-closes-3-bases-3-years-2-left.html)

N927EV 03-17-2015 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by skydreamer2015 (Post 1844569)
What 2 bases are left then?
ORD and DFW. Where we're steadily becoming the minority. Hell, Dfw has old eagle planes (680, 685, 687 to name a few) that are being flown by XJT pilots. This place is a whole new level of suck!

TheRaven 03-17-2015 11:48 AM
Shouldn't it be "closes 4 bases, 2 left"....LAX, MIA, SJU, and LGA/JFK

FlyingOkra 03-17-2015 04:25 PM
Sounds like Endeavor.

MEM, ATL, DTW, MSP, and JFK. Down to DTW, MSP, and JFK/LGA. From 900's, 200's, Saabs, 1900's, and Q400's down to end state 81 - 900`s. Aimed for 300 New Hires last year and ended up with like 13. Pilot group went from about 2,500+ down to about 1,500 in quick fashion.

Moonwolf 03-17-2015 04:32 PM
Too early for a puck FSA?

JohnnyDingus 03-17-2015 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1844733)
Too early for a puck FSA?

And go........ Do you really think the PSA pilots on here care?? At least I dont.


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FirstClass 03-17-2015 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1844733)
Too early for a puck FSA?
I was at PSA corp yesterday and it looks like we are opening a base in DFW, not Chicago. We might also be now adding E175's to our program. Word is Envoy can't staff it.

PilotCrusader 03-17-2015 05:12 PM
In comes the scum to rub salt in the wound

Avroman 03-17-2015 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1844391)
Just announced the NY base closure.
In 2012 we had SJU, LAX, MIA, ORD, and DFW. A few years before that, we even had BOS.

It's over for envoy. The 40 airplanes coming won't be able to be staffed with the people remaining. Ive told every FO I can to get out. Go anywhere but here. This is our punishment for trying to stand up for an industry that didn't want to be stood up for.

Saving grace for me is I am retiring.

Oh and welcome to the Doug Parker playbook of lies TSA! Enjoy that tur dhole LGA base.
Endeavor (Pinnacolaba) Let's see, off the top of my head, Pinnacle, MEM, MSP, DTW, ATL, JFK.... Mesaba, MSP, DTW, CVG, MEM, LGA ( CWA, RHI, years back) Colgan, IAH, EWR, IAD, BOS, CRW, ALB, and the pile of outstation bases I can't remember..... Today, MSP, DTW, JFK/LGA.... over 3000 pilots, now 1500, down to 110ish planes and still dropping... We feel your pain. At least we might have hit bottom finally here

trailBrake 03-18-2015 02:54 AM
Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1844763)
I was at PSA corp yesterday and it looks like we are opening a base in DFW, not Chicago. We might also be now adding E175's to our program. Word is Envoy can't staff it.
Delta will be happy.
The worse the product becomes the more new customers Delta gets.

Ex lurker 03-18-2015 04:38 AM
Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1844763)
I was at PSA corp yesterday and it looks like we are opening a base in DFW, not Chicago. We might also be now adding E175's to our program. Word is Envoy can't staff it.
Since before the PSA (or envoy) pilot votes AAGs goal was for PSA to be the operator of the Bombardier products and envoy to be the operator of the Embraer products. That goal hasn't changed.

There is a target number of envoy pilots and that number is close to being hit. If attrition carries envoy below that number there is a group of pilots that could be brought in that would bolster the numbers.


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