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Old 03-19-2015 | 03:27 PM
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What? Thrustlever hasn't give his 2 cents?
Sure I did. I approved your latest obsession of calling me "Thrustlever". I like the name !
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Old 03-20-2015 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
This makes sense. Only question for me is if a merge with PDT is AA's plan A or plan B. Either way it would be silly no to realize that a merge is a distinct possibility.

In your educated guess, what would need to happen for this merger to be set in motion?
I believe a merge will happen when either their contract concessions kick in or envoy cannot staff the fleet. I don't have any proof of it but I suspect AAG management doesn't want to give away any more aircraft to non wholly owned carriers in order to match the fleet to the pilot numbers.

I also believe that once AAG mainline is more or less fully integrated and all the groups there have their CBAs set AAG will set their sights on cleaning up and rationalizing the feed side of the house. Again, I have no proof of this, it's just a hunch.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 06:50 AM
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I also believe that once AAG mainline is more or less fully integrated and all the groups there have their CBAs set AAG will set their sights on cleaning up and rationalizing the feed side of the house. Again, I have no proof of this, it's just a hunch.
I believe Parker said something like this early on after the merger... someone with a bit more motivation could probably find it on one of the newsletters, etc. Mainline going to a single certificate (next month supposedly) will be a big step towards that.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Flubber
I believe Parker said something like this early on after the merger... someone with a bit more motivation could probably find it on one of the newsletters, etc. Mainline going to a single certificate (next month supposedly) will be a big step towards that.
The end number of feeders stated publicly was six. Whether you like Parker or not he follows through on what he states in public.

The Embraers recently committed to TSA and XJT have very short contracts. Surprisingly, even the aircraft committed to PDT have a potential recall date.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 08:25 AM
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Nice sensationalist title. Someone wants to be the first to alight on the burial shroud, and bury us while we're still alive.

I think I'll go for a walk.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
The end number of feeders stated publicly was six. Whether you like Parker or not he follows through on what he states in public.

The Embraers recently committed to TSA and XJT have very short contracts. Surprisingly, even the aircraft committed to PDT have a potential recall date.
And what are the lengths of those contracts? I've yet to hear anything official
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Old 03-20-2015 | 08:41 AM
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I heard the other day from my friend's sim partner's boyfriend's buddy in management that Envoy is getting the 787s!

This has to be the most useless thread ever!
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Old 03-20-2015 | 10:08 AM
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You can't go by what makes sense. Nothing in this business makes sense ever, espeially if it would save money. PDT will be flying the Dash until 2018 and maybe beyond, along with some145s. As cute as it would be to see some Envoy folks displaced to the Dash 8, I wouldn't worry about any merger nonsense anytime soon. Now go watch the tourney, it's more exciting.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by adspilot
I heard the other day from my friend's sim partner's boyfriend's buddy in management that Envoy is getting the 787s!

This has to be the most useless thread ever!
Damage control ehh? How is it useless? I actually screwed up: it has been 4 out of 6 based closes in 3 years. I think it important for those looking to get into aviation that the writing is on the wall at envoy.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 12:31 PM
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How is it useful?

I'll tell you how: It isn't. It's looking for a little internet popularity by speculating about someone else's misery.

Popularizing this demise to "protect" people from applying here works against the people who would like this place to continue existing.

Truly, if you're not with us you are acting against us.
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