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Old 03-20-2015 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
How is it useful?

I'll tell you how: It isn't. It's looking for a little internet popularity by speculating about someone else's misery.

Popularizing this demise to "protect" people from applying here works against the people who would like this place to continue existing.

Truly, if you're not with us you are acting against us.
So we should screw new hires over by not sharing news so you can get ahead? Got it. You sound more suited to work for PSA.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 04:58 PM
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Lol, me? I'm not one to cheer for a competitor's demise, especially if to stand to gain from said liquidation.

But let's make something clear, here... Envoy's demise is your opinion, and is contrary to the stated objective of our management*, so therefore it's simply you out for a little dirty negative press. Enjoy dancing on the empty coffin.

*I am fully aware of how trustworthy AAG management is. I will NOT however, actively assist in the potential demise of this airline while there are good people working here, unlike some individuals on this forum.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
Lol, me? I'm not one to cheer for a competitor's demise, especially if to stand to gain from said liquidation.

But let's make something clear, here... Envoy's demise is your opinion, and is contrary to the stated objective of our management*, so therefore it's simply you out for a little dirty negative press. Enjoy dancing on the empty coffin.

*I am fully aware of how trustworthy AAG management is. I will NOT however, actively assist in the potential demise of this airline while there are good people working here, unlike some individuals on this forum.
The demise has already happened. We have dropped from 6 bases, 3400 pilots, and 300+ aircraft to 2 bases, 1800 pilots, and 199 aircraft in just 3 short years.

Most of our FOs have sat reserve longer than most FOs at other regionals have sat in the right seat before upgrading - like PSA, MESA, Skywest, Gojet, TSA, Compass, Commutair, etc...... I just flew with an FO who has been on Reserve since he stared in late 2011. His friend quit here after a year and a half, went to PSA, and upgraded in 7 months.

Now we are slated to shrink by half in the next year and a half, and you say we should invite people to join this place? Come on man. You are telling me that is not just a "little" selfish?

There are much better options than a place that has already lost half its pilots in 3 years, but now will lose another 50% of its fleet and pilots in the next year and half.
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Old 03-20-2015 | 06:44 PM
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And by the way, what do I personally have to gain from telling negatives about envoy? I am out of here in the coming years, but this place could still collapse before I go. Getting new hires in the door would be good for me. I'm not going to sell my soul to get them in here though. I am here for the truth. I have gone after plenty of other regionals on here for lies and truth bending. I'd be a hypocrite not to report on my own airline.
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Old 03-21-2015 | 04:56 AM
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Goodluck!.
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