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Old 03-24-2015, 09:43 PM   #31  
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Ill make it simple for you. Is a year of flight/medical benefits and starting the clock on your vacation time worth 5 grand?? If it is then do it. If not, then don't.

You sign a contract that has a buy out which is pro rated so once you hit 1500 if you want to go somewhere else use the bonus the other company give you to pay it off. You aren't locked into going to Envoy. Is that the smartest move? Is it ethical? Its up for you to decide.
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Just remember the regional sector is extremely fluid. Your making an educated guess regardless. The only thing that seems to hold true is the place to go now will be the worst place to work in two years.

In December 2010 Mesa was just out of ch 11 and had a ten year upgrade, and furloughing, and trust me Mesa is not a good place to an fo very long. Colgan was the fast upgrade (those guys ended up in now endevour and are fos still). Horizon was a 10+ year upgrade and no relief in sight, those guys are upgrading. Eagle was a guarentedd place to go to not be whipsawed. If you went to Piedmont assume you'd never upgrade or never see real flow. Eagle, expresjet, and pinnacle (now endevour) were the three most sought after places. This industry has an unpredictable wild card just around the corned. My guess is flow and the soon large bulk of mainline hiring they will consume.

Like the experienced guys on here tell you, pick somewhere you can tolerate the current conditions and contract of in the base you want. The rest are rapidly changing variables.
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Just remember the regional sector is extremely fluid. Your making an educated guess regardless. The only thing that seems to hold true is the place to go now will be the worst place to work in two years.

In December 2010 Mesa was just out of ch 11 and had a ten year upgrade, and furloughing, and trust me Mesa is not a good place to an fo very long. Colgan was the fast upgrade (those guys ended up in now endevour and are fos still). Horizon was a 10+ year upgrade and no relief in sight, those guys are upgrading. Eagle was a guarentedd place to go to not be whipsawed. If you went to Piedmont assume you'd never upgrade or never see real flow. Eagle, expresjet, and pinnacle (now endevour) were the three most sought after places. This industry has an unpredictable wild card just around the corned. My guess is flow and the soon large bulk of mainline hiring they will consume.

Like the experienced guys on here tell you, pick somewhere you can tolerate the current conditions and contract of in the base you want. The rest are rapidly changing variables.
Best advice on this thread. Try to have fun along the way too, after all, it's a job flying airplanes at the end of the day.
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:45 PM   #34  
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Let me get this straight - if hired at Envoy you do/do not get an American Airlines seniority number ?
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Do not. Just a flow.
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You forgot the "privilege" of working for Dougie.
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