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Old 03-21-2015, 08:21 AM   #1  
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I'm a low time (750) instructor and got a job offer from Envoy through their "Pipeline" program. I'm not sure wether to take it as they require a 2 year commitment from class date. The benefit would be full travel benefits immediately. I'm conflicted, as on one hand I would have a guaranteed job immediately. On the other hand, how do they rate relative to other regionals. What do you recommend? Wait until I have my hours and apply elsewhere, or take their offer?
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There's only about a 10% chance you'd actually have to fulfill your 2 year commitment anyway, since envoy is in full Comair mode. Might as well enjoy some free travel benefits.
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PM a guy named RJ Pilot. He was a former Eagle pilot who got fired and is now a "GV Captain" flying into closed airports (read living in his mom's basement). He is a very trustworthy character and you should take his advice to heart.

If travel benefits are important to you, it could be worth it. You are not that far from RATP limits and once you reach those, you are set for any regional of choice. The pipeline program forces you to go to Envoy. Would you have much time to travel as an instructor? I know when I was an instructor I neve would have been able to.
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As soon as you meet the requirements you've got a guaranteed job anywhere you want.

The question you need to answer is where do you want to live ?


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PM a guy named RJ Pilot. He was a former Eagle pilot who got fired and is now a "GV Captain" flying into closed airports (read living in his mom's basement). He is a very trustworthy character and you should take his advice to heart.

If travel benefits are important to you, it could be worth it. You are not that far from RATP limits and once you reach those, you are set for any regional of choice. The pipeline program forces you to go to Envoy. Would you have much time to travel as an instructor? I know when I was an instructor I neve would have been able to.
What do you have to do in order to get fired from a regional these days, anyways? Boink the CP's daughter?
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Boink will get you into the training department so you can support his daughter. only way to get technically fired is if the police escort you in handcuffs, but then the company will just place you on leave of absence until you a released from jail and yes you will have to repeat long term training.
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I'm a low time (750) instructor and got a job offer from Envoy through their "Pipeline" program. I'm not sure wether to take it as they require a 2 year commitment from class date. The benefit would be full travel benefits immediately. I'm conflicted, as on one hand I would have a guaranteed job immediately. On the other hand, how do they rate relative to other regionals. What do you recommend? Wait until I have my hours and apply elsewhere, or take their offer?
Thanks for your input.

Definitely wait. You'll pretty much have a guaranteed job at any regional when you meet the mins. Dont settle for one that is drastically shrinking and offers little career progression compared to others (Compass, TSA, PSA, Mesa) just because they offer you a job now. I know a guy who fell for it, left before he was supposed to start class and now has to pay back the $5000 signing bonus. If I were you Id build up the hours then apply everywhere and choose which airline works best for you.
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Boink will get you into the training department so you can support his daughter. only way to get technically fired is if the police escort you in handcuffs, but then the company will just place you on leave of absence until you a released from jail and yes you will have to repeat long term training.
This is so on point it's awesome.
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I'm a low time (750) instructor and got a job offer from Envoy through their "Pipeline" program. I'm not sure wether to take it as they require a 2 year commitment from class date. The benefit would be full travel benefits immediately. I'm conflicted, as on one hand I would have a guaranteed job immediately. On the other hand, how do they rate relative to other regionals. What do you recommend? Wait until I have my hours and apply elsewhere, or take their offer?
Thanks for your input.
It's almost flattering, you'd think...to get an airline interested in you this early on...but trust me, once you reach 1500 you can pick any regional you want. Don't sell yourself to a troubled regional for the sake of travel benefits in the meantime.
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