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penaltybox 04-24-2015 05:20 AM

Whats being negotiated?

PublicPhone2 04-24-2015 05:28 AM

Definitely imploding.............Bailed last month, should have left last year.

458FS 04-29-2015 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by PublicPhone2 (Post 1867736)
Definitely imploding.............Bailed last month, should have left last year.

Hire date?

Not a bad gig, you will soon realize.

Reservist 04-29-2015 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by 458FS (Post 1870744)
Hire date?

Not a bad gig, you will soon realize.

Can't make sense of this.

What is not a bad gig?

PilotLife4me 04-29-2015 11:26 AM

Going from 2100 pilots to the stated 1400ish, is a great gig!

Skyvector 04-29-2015 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by PilotLife4me (Post 1870790)
Going from 2100 pilots to the stated 1400ish, is a great gig!

It's shrinking through natural attrition. Not furloughs or other negative things. Yes, it is a great gig. You get in ahead of the wave and you'll be senior to many people down the road.

Once those staffing numbers are hit a new hire at Envoy will be at AA in 5 years with our flow-no interview.

PilotLife4me 04-29-2015 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1870974)
It's shrinking through natural attrition. Not furloughs or other negative things. Yes, it is a great gig. You get in ahead of the wave and you'll be senior to many people down the road.

Once those staffing numbers are hit a new hire at Envoy will be at AA in 5 years with our flow-no interview.

I think that's what they were telling the guys that are just flowing when they got hired on. I know times are different, but depending on the flow can bite you. IMHO
I'm two years in and still on reserve, believe me I want things to change quick!

Harpyr 04-29-2015 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1870974)
It's shrinking through natural attrition. Not furloughs or other negative things.

I respectfully disagree. Base closures are a negative thing causing pilots to leave to avoid cross-country commutes. There's a lot of drama on the local ALPA level that isn't exactly encouraging people to stay. A shrinking fleet means minimal upward movement and possibly displacements from captain, driving people away. I know there are no furloughs or downgrades right now, but I'd argue there are many other negative things going on there that are causing unnatural attrition, not the least of which is the toxic relationship with AAG.

DENpilot 04-29-2015 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1870974)
It's shrinking through natural attrition. Not furloughs or other negative things. Yes, it is a great gig. You get in ahead of the wave and you'll be senior to many people down the road.

Once those staffing numbers are hit a new hire at Envoy will be at AA in 5 years with our flow-no interview.

Oh, honey...

buddies8 04-30-2015 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1870974)
It's shrinking through natural attrition. Not furloughs or other negative things. Yes, it is a great gig. You get in ahead of the wave and you'll be senior to many people down the road.

Once those staffing numbers are hit a new hire at Envoy will be at AA in 5 years with our flow-no interview.

Your repeating what Isom said in the last aag town hall meeting, which appears to happen every three days. Don't these people have an airline to screw over, what's with all the town hall meetings.


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