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RJ Pilot 05-02-2015 10:47 AM

Integrity, manhood and Gardner in the same sentence? What a joke.



Goodluck!

JohnGardner 05-02-2015 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1872590)
Integrity, manhood and Gardner in the same sentence? What a joke.



Goodluck!

Yep. Liar. Whining little girl hiding behind a keyboard.

PilotCrusader 05-02-2015 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1872582)
Well gee whiz Internet tough guy. Who are you on the lounge? And since it is no secret who I am, of course my offer to point out where I was a no cheerleader extends to those posts as well. You still come up empty, tho. Are you GF? He likes to attack me in the ssame.baseless way there. Oh and I did have plenty to lose. I have integrity (ask GF to post the definition of that word for you) and many many friends at eagle who I wouldn't screw over. Your argument that I "had nothing to lose" is juvenile and puts you in like company.

Who is GF?

I stopped posting on the lounge years ago because of all the short fat guys with a chip on their shoulder.

Of course you had nothing to lose.

If you really cared about your "friends" at Eagle, you would have supported a future for them, rather than being a sacrificial lamb for the "greater good". A lot of good that is doing for your "friends" or the industry today.

Skyvector 05-02-2015 11:54 AM

Hey Gardner,

Why don't you go stuff another bacon wrapped onion ring in your mouth and shut the hell up.

Maybe you hang around your poker pals a little too much, but I have news for you: Nobody at Envoy likes you.

You are a complete douche online who likes to act like a tough guy and in real life you are a sad, meek, little fat man.

As others have mentioned you were one of the ones direct responsible for the damaging NO vote last year. And now you continue to defend it by launching vicious attacks on people online while walking in the shadows of terminals in real life.

PublicPhone2 05-02-2015 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1872617)
Hey Gardner,

Why don't you go stuff another bacon wrapped onion ring in your mouth and shut the hell up.

Maybe you hang around your poker pals a little too much, but I have news for you: Nobody at Envoy likes you.

You are a complete douche online who likes to act like a tough guy and in real life you are a sad, meek, little fat man.

As others have mentioned you were one of the ones direct responsible for the damaging NO vote last year. And now you continue to defend it by launching vicious attacks on people online while walking in the shadows of terminals in real life.

And.....we should have voted no again in December. Instead, we caved like a bunch of pansies. The only turd is envoy. Thanks John for standing up for this pathetic work group and demanding better-not worse.
RJ-Pathetic, nutless and a coward
Skyvector-company douche

JohnGardner 05-02-2015 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1872617)
Hey Gardner,

Why don't you go stuff another bacon wrapped onion ring in your mouth and shut the hell up.

Maybe you hang around your poker pals a little too much, but I have news for you: Nobody at Envoy likes you.

You are a complete douche online who likes to act like a tough guy and in real life you are a sad, meek, little fat man.

As others have mentioned you were one of the ones direct responsible for the damaging NO vote last year. And now you continue to defend it by launching vicious attacks on people online while walking in the shadows of terminals in real life.

Hey skyvector, whoever you are,

Project much? I'm sad and meek in real life? No one at eagle likes me? Clearly you don't know me. I could lose a few pounds, and after I did, you and your fellow keyboard warriors would still be a bunch of hiding, whining, swiveling little douchebags.

I launch vicious attacks? So you can't read either. I am responsible for 0% of the no vote. Period. Blame all you like my conscious is clear.

Walk in the shadows? I showed up at a Miami base visit of Sprague's in AA uniform as I was just commuting in. Said hi to many friends. Went toe to toe with one of you blamers. The same guy hiding behind Out in left field on the lounge.

You don't know me. Or you are just stupid. Or both, I don't know because you couldn't find the huevos to tell me who you are if you needed to. That goes for all your pals.

FeedTheYote 05-02-2015 04:37 PM

If I had a nickel for every time Johnny G stopped crappy info from going into an official communication, I'd be rich. The same goes for every time he lobbied to get better info, clearer info, and just plain more comprehensive info into his comms.

If you think you can do better, my advice is to try. You'll be writing comms that have to satisfy every diverse opinion on the MEC, plus get the approval of ALPA legal (local and national), plus make sure the message is clear to the average line pilot (not too long, not too brief, but still interesting and engaging), plus make sure the comm fits within a larger strategy which, again, is vehemently disagreed upon by members of the MEC, plus make sure the torrential tide of constantly changing information is always accurately portrayed in what you write, plus make sure your emails are getting delivered to as many pilots as possible, plus make sure that...

...the list goes on and on. Lighten up. Johnny G was a good comm guy.

PilotCrusader 05-02-2015 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by FeedTheYote (Post 1872732)
If I had a nickel for every time Johnny G stopped crappy info from going into an official communication, I'd be rich. The same goes for every time he lobbied to get better info, clearer info, and just plain more comprehensive info into his comms.

If you think you can do better, my advice is to try. You'll be writing comms that have to satisfy every diverse opinion on the MEC, plus get the approval of ALPA legal (local and national), plus make sure the message is clear to the average line pilot (not too long, not too brief, but still interesting and engaging), plus make sure the comm fits within a larger strategy which, again, is vehemently disagreed upon by members of the MEC, plus make sure the torrential tide of constantly changing information is always accurately portrayed in what you write, plus make sure your emails are getting delivered to as many pilots as possible, plus make sure that...

...the list goes on and on. Lighten up. Johnny G was a good comm guy.

He was a great comm guy. It was all the other coercion he did on the side, and then after he left for AA.

JohnGardner 05-02-2015 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1872735)
He was a great comm guy. It was all the other coercion he did on the side, and then after he left for AA.

I appreciate the cudo and that's sincere. Maybe you could enlighten me as to what you are talking about with the rest.

Thanks yote- appreciate that too.

boiler07 05-02-2015 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1872668)
Hey skyvector, whoever you are,

Project much? I'm sad and meek in real life? No one at eagle likes me? Clearly you don't know me. I could lose a few pounds, and after I did, you and your fellow keyboard warriors would still be a bunch of hiding, whining, swiveling little douchebags.

I launch vicious attacks? So you can't read either. I am responsible for 0% of the no vote. Period. Blame all you like my conscious is clear.

Walk in the shadows? I showed up at a Miami base visit of Sprague's in AA uniform as I was just commuting in. Said hi to many friends. Went toe to toe with one of you blamers. The same guy hiding behind Out in left field on the lounge.

You don't know me. Or you are just stupid. Or both, I don't know because you couldn't find the huevos to tell me who you are if you needed to. That goes for all your pals.

Mauricio? Lol


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