If you could read you would have noticed it's not 6 CRJs 2 months longer. Those 6 CRJs won't be transfered at all in 2015. They will be added to the second batch that starts in 2016. So it actually means 6 more CRJs than originally planned for over a year. Meaning 6 more all the way into 2017 if they take them at the same rate as planned.

You are right, he's obviously a major ********* trying to get to you. You are just run-of-the-mill ********* for your behavior on the PSA thread. Good point.

The ignorance and shortsightedness on this website is amazing and completely not surprising. And it's now being led by Mr. Ignorant himself: eaglefly.

It's a waste of time to attempt to educate people who don't want to listen in the first place, but here goes. The fact that we are keeping the CRJs longer serves as a bridge to when we begin receiving our E-175s. What that means is there will be no net loss of aircraft or a lull in flying as originally thought. Furthermore, this announcement is only the beginning. There will be Captain vacancies posted soon...and let's not forget one very important storm brewing:

Republic. Their entire operation is imploding before everyone's eyes as Bedford has backed himself into a corner. This on top of the fact Parker has never liked him or Republic to begin with. Their MIA operation is in shambles and things get worse by the day. They fly he E175...we begin to take delivery this fall. You connect the dots of possibilities here. These CRJs staying is a drop in the bucket compared to what Envoy has coming their way, but good news never the less.

Let's not forget that our current flow is 6 years to AA with an upgrade in between for new hires. Certain other airlines are unable to offer anything remotely as good so they throw up smoke and mirrors to hide their short comings.

I still think Envoy is going to get more than even the 90 options for E-175s... RAH is sinking fast. That flying has to go somewhere. If Envoy is overstaffed, then what better place?

I'll bet they have considered siphoning some of RAH's 175's to Envoy, but logistics at Envoy have prevented them from doing that. Proving runs will come soon and the original schedule seems likely, but perhaps some of those RAH birds could ultimately move there which means Envoy gets more 175's sooner and perhaps more 175's overall. Even then, it's not a bombshell that will keep an Envoy pilot from Spirit, Jet Blue or Legacies, nor start the stampede to Envoy. Of all things, Envoy needs a 50 pilot/month stampede which equates to perhaps 100 interviews/month considering Envoy's supposed selectivity. I've ridden jumpseat on Shuttle several times and their pilots aren't even phased by 170/175's anymore. Its glamour wears off quickly and they are all clamoring to bail as much as anyone, believe me.

I simply have a tough time seeing masonbirds claims of Envotopia unless Envoy does 75-100 interviews/month and hires at least 45-50 and without that, the best laid plans of mice, men and masons will almost certainly fail to materialize.

Giggity............coming from Mr. Denial himself, this is funny. :rolleyes:

The above is essentially what I said, Mr. Denial, i.e., a known business decision to smooth the transition of aircraft AWAY from Envoy and a lesser number of new aircraft TO Envoy.

Your opinion, yet you spin it as something that will provide certainties for Envoy pilots present and future. Sure there is some truth to that, but equating that with any certainties down the road is absurd.

Um, let's not forget that your CURRENT flow is PROJECTED to be X, which is not the same as a certainty. Me thinks you're upset your OWN smoke and mirrors spin is being cleared and cleaned by others and you find that upsetting.

Given the CRJ's extended stay at Envoy, does that mean they will keep flying out of all current bases, including NY? Is NY base getting an extension as well?

I think they'll eventually will get more jets too. What's the schedule on the first 40 ?

Isn't it something like end of 2017 ?

The whole regional industry will very likely be different by then and Envoy itself could be in any number of situations many doesn't consider. If they order more (ostensibly to REPLACE older, smaller Embraer's), it will be AT LEAST 2018 before they hit the property.

PSA pilots are called scabs by envoy pilots for voting in a decent contract that allowed massive movement at their airline.

Envoy is drooling over flying Republics 175s (that republic actually purchased and owns).

Mmm hypocrisy


Edit:
What about the 140s still being parked and 145s that are going to TSA and XJT?

This is honestly good news for everyone. Envoy gets to fly six CRJ's another year, PSA gets a chance to catch its breath. The other case scenario would've been either PSA and/or Envoy parks -200's or -145's respectfully. AAG doesn't want the dual class birds sitting around at all.