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Smutter 07-12-2015 08:54 PM

Don't come to envoy
 
Enough of the "what's happening lately" we need to tell potential new hires, or potential lateral movers why it is so bad here. I've been here over 5 years and it has gotten worse day by day.

1. Min days off
2. Line values at 72, reserves can potentially make more.
3. Continuous lies from management
4. No real growth, only temporarily adding block hours while others can catch up on hiring.
5. Reserves are being punished illegally for the companies unwillingness to negotiate.
6. A flat out lie of time to upgrade and flow.


Many more and worse reasons, please continue thread so that the above can see what it's like here.

meeko031 07-12-2015 09:47 PM

...it's simple, same answer i gave the workers at walmart protesting about their jobs - QUIT !!! No one to blame but yourself for the "miserable" situation you're in now, simply end the relationship and do something else that will make you "enjoy your life"


have a good day!

Duct Mon 07-12-2015 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Smutter (Post 1928256)
Enough of the "what's happening lately" we need to tell potential new hires, or potential lateral movers why it is so bad here. I've been here over 5 years and it has gotten worse day by day.

1. Min days off
2. Line values at 72, reserves can potentially make more.
3. Continuous lies from management
4. No real growth, only temporarily adding block hours while others can catch up on hiring.
5. Reserves are being punished illegally for the companies unwillingness to negotiate.
6. A flat out lie of time to upgrade and flow.


Many more and worse reasons, please continue thread so that the above can see what it's like here.

Maybe you can get a job at PSA

Smutter 07-13-2015 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 1928271)
...it's simple, same answer i gave the workers at walmart protesting about their jobs - QUIT !!! No one to blame but yourself for the "miserable" situation you're in now, simply end the relationship and do something else that will make you "enjoy your life"


have a good day!

In the process

Smutter 07-13-2015 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by Duct Mon (Post 1928273)
Maybe you can get a job at PSA

That's the answer of a crappy boss.

JT8D 07-13-2015 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 1928271)
...it's simple, same answer i gave the workers at walmart protesting about their jobs - QUIT !!! No one to blame but yourself for the "miserable" situation you're in now, simply end the relationship and do something else that will make you "enjoy your life"


have a good day!

Great advice! Envoy deserves to be shut down, but it should be done on the pilots' terms, not those of the so-called management

JT8D 07-13-2015 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Duct Mon (Post 1928273)
Maybe you can get a job at PSA

Real classy. Is that what you aspire to after Mesa?

TalkTurkey 07-13-2015 04:46 AM

You can always join the firstclass rate of pilots listed below.

sailingfun 07-13-2015 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Smutter (Post 1928256)
Enough of the "what's happening lately" we need to tell potential new hires, or potential lateral movers why it is so bad here. I've been here over 5 years and it has gotten worse day by day.

1. Min days off
2. Line values at 72, reserves can potentially make more.
3. Continuous lies from management
4. No real growth, only temporarily adding block hours while others can catch up on hiring.
5. Reserves are being punished illegally for the companies unwillingness to negotiate.
6. A flat out lie of time to upgrade and flow.


Many more and worse reasons, please continue thread so that the above can see what it's like here.

Good God man! Why on earth have you stayed?

snippercr 07-13-2015 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 1928350)
You heading back to envoy?

Good Luck

Never, he's ridding the GV into the ground like he did the Envoy cash cow he was on.

Literally - he flys that GV of his into closed airports and brags about it. Kinda like a certain PSA DB we know.

I really picture RJ Pilot as the Howard from Big Bang Theory. He wont know that reference but many will.


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