He's doing MORE then just counting HIS chickens, he's counting others phantom chickens for them that have yet to roost based on HIS theoretical chicken count. :rolleyes:

I think he missed his true calling as that of a TV Evangelist duping those who are desperate for something to believe in and someone to follow. At least there, he could likely make more $$$ than applying that effort here which has produced bupkus.

stolen and edited from EagleLounge...

August lines...

"7 zero time lines for OCE but none for OFE. Most in the mid 60s for total hours with some in the lower 70s and a few 80. However, some even in the upper 50 hour range.

No CDOs but RAP4 (by accident?).

Schedules are like watching the Chicago Cubs. Maybe next month they will improve. I remember May they were supposed to improve. Then June. Then July.

Keep up the good work Ric - you really are making this an efficient and awesome company we all love to work for. Pedro, if you want us to stop bad mouthing this place and encouraging people to come here - kick the Ric.

Oh and at least in ORD ERJ, ALL 4 day trips. No day trips. Poor senior CAs. Also I heard that again they are going to try in August to de-pair ERJ crews, FAs and cockpit. Here we go again."



Also stolen from EL

"I don't know what more they could possibly want from us?

Our contract is junk and they just violate it at will anyway. PSA has a better contract than us.

We are already the lowest paid per W2 in the industry for a jet regional due to extremely low guarantee's. If you compare them to others at equal longevity. A 10 year and a 5 year Eagle guy compared to any other regional at the equivalent longevity step, makes way less on average, for the lowest amount of days off and longest duty times on top of that.

Our hotels already suck and are in crap locations thanks to API.

We have zero ability to modify our schedules on reserve due to everything being denied for no reason.

We already have a punitive fatigue policy.

We have the lowest average days off of any jet regional in the US with the lowest associated pay credit. Not like we can work more days.

They already got PBS out of us, they chose to delay it, they could have it if they wanted.

We have to commute the day before and the day after trips because our schedules are so atrocious. Free hotels is NOT a plus here, contrary to popular belief. We Shouldn't need them in the first place.

We have the worst and longest reserve of any regional in the US. We have more pilots on reserve than any other regional, by far. We have more pilots on reserve than PDT and Trans States have total.

We have more airport standby pilots daily than any other Airline in the country.

We've closed pretty much all our bases already.

We are close to the longest upgrade of any regional in the US. I think only outdone by Endeavor right now..

We are losing more aircraft than any other US regional in history has ever lost.

We have zero career progression here. Each month is worse than the last. Each month here you get further from a good schedule, not closer.."

A month ago Cujo said "it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot", so how could this be ?

When you question his credibility and claims, you are simply declared a troll and placed on ignore. What conclusion would any reasonable person make regarding the situation there and more importantly what some of their union reps have apparently become ?

It's stunning what my old airline has become and more importantly how far its so-called union has fallen. :(

I don't know how I forgot to put it in my first post. API hotels are the worst. We stay at truck stops 45 minutes away from the airport, and they keep getting worse. But don't worry Pedro will lead us to the promise land. As soon as he learns English.

As a general rule I stay away from complaining, it's not productive. In light of that I will say that August DFW lines are 100% 4 day trips. Most are below guarantee. Most are less than 14 days off. Gone are the days of 18 day off daily, 2 day and 3 day trips in the mid 80's pay credit. I've never seen this in 14 years here at any base.

Guys, guys... Cujo told you that it will get worse BEFORE it gets better.

Huge announcement next month Ive been told.

Good Luck!

You still work for Envoy. Why don't you ask your boss.

Good Luck

Hahaha that's kind of funny.

That next BIG announcement is always just around the corner...

Sure...

Good Luck!

I for one would love to see some old mason32 quotes. Perhaps several choice ones over a six month time line.