Envoy to American Airlines
09-29-2015 | 05:07 PM
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As soon as you figure out how to get one contract and one pilot list, unity is a pipe dream. How many of you have "mainline" contracts? Make whatever excuse you want, if you don't have one you caved for your own self interest.
09-29-2015 | 05:11 PM
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I haven't heard any rumors of them getting rid of the SAP. Not that it would matter because the company has essentially made it unusable as of late anyway. But I still wouldn't give it up in its broken state for anything.
I think the company wants relief on language in our contract dealing with DECs and they want to do 5 day IOE trips instead of 4 for efficiency. Like I said though, I don't think we should be giving ANYTHING up. But alas, I can't vote. So there it is.
I think the company wants relief on language in our contract dealing with DECs and they want to do 5 day IOE trips instead of 4 for efficiency. Like I said though, I don't think we should be giving ANYTHING up. But alas, I can't vote. So there it is.
(Edit: I meant the other PSA thread)
09-29-2015 | 05:33 PM
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From: CRJ FO
I can't help but notice that you have become quite the expert in your less than one year of 121 time. But yes, after SAP became mysteriously " broken" I doubt the company will need to use it for a bargaining chip again. I do remember clearly when everyone on this thread was expounding its virtues. Do you think it helped in recruitment?
(Edit: I meant the other PSA thread)
(Edit: I meant the other PSA thread)
09-30-2015 | 05:18 AM
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I haven't heard any rumors of them getting rid of the SAP. Not that it would matter because the company has essentially made it unusable as of late anyway. But I still wouldn't give it up in its broken state for anything.
I think the company wants relief on language in our contract dealing with DECs and they want to do 5 day IOE trips instead of 4 for efficiency. Like I said though, I don't think we should be giving ANYTHING up. But alas, I can't vote. So there it is.
I think the company wants relief on language in our contract dealing with DECs and they want to do 5 day IOE trips instead of 4 for efficiency. Like I said though, I don't think we should be giving ANYTHING up. But alas, I can't vote. So there it is.
09-30-2015 | 05:35 AM
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09-30-2015 | 05:43 AM
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Because they have been the only airline to pass a contract that "undercut" another airline, sure. Ask Comair pilots about that. I guess if it was before your time it never happened and the uncomfortable truth can be swept under the rug. BTW, how's that mainline contract you've got?
09-30-2015 | 07:06 AM
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Because they have been the only airline to pass a contract that "undercut" another airline, sure. Ask Comair pilots about that. I guess if it was before your time it never happened and the uncomfortable truth can be swept under the rug. BTW, how's that mainline contract you've got?
We would all have better contracts right now if it wasn't for the places like PSA, Mesa and Gojets and the pilots willing to go there to undercut and get ahead at the expense of others. Eagle tried to STW and stand up for what was right in a time of record profits to just have their legs chopped out from under them by greedy upgrade hungry backstabbbers. If everyone said no collectively (which we tried to do with the ALPA FFD meetings) this BS would stop.
09-30-2015 | 07:38 AM
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No its not before my time. I have been flying since the 90's.
We would all have better contracts right now if it wasn't for the places like PSA, Mesa and Gojets and the pilots willing to go there to undercut and get ahead at the expense of others. Eagle tried to STW and stand up for what was right in a time of record profits to just have their legs chopped out from under them by greedy upgrade hungry backstabbbers. If everyone said no collectively (which we tried to do with the ALPA FFD meetings) this BS would stop.
We would all have better contracts right now if it wasn't for the places like PSA, Mesa and Gojets and the pilots willing to go there to undercut and get ahead at the expense of others. Eagle tried to STW and stand up for what was right in a time of record profits to just have their legs chopped out from under them by greedy upgrade hungry backstabbbers. If everyone said no collectively (which we tried to do with the ALPA FFD meetings) this BS would stop.
09-30-2015 | 08:13 AM
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Because they have been the only airline to pass a contract that "undercut" another airline, sure. Ask Comair pilots about that. I guess if it was before your time it never happened and the uncomfortable truth can be swept under the rug. BTW, how's that mainline contract you've got?
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