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eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2156959)
This has unfortunately been the case since last year. They have occasionally done the same for sick calls as well.

Wow, so you agree it's true........screwing over their own pilots for simply being ill ?

Sounds retaliatory to me.

AdiosMikeFox 07-06-2016 12:20 PM

Makin' crap up again. "Buddy"? You're worse than a politician on the campaign trail, not an untwisted fact out of you. Ever.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2156970)
Makin' crap up again. "Buddy"? You're worse than a politician on the campaign trail, not an untwisted fact out of you. Ever.

So you say this isn't true and made up and then it IS true ?

A pretzel calls ME twisted ? Too funny.

E175 Driver 07-06-2016 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2156760)
Might not be an option.

Rumor from another supposedly from multiple sources like instructors, scheduling and recruiting says they may displace from DFW E-175 F/O to ORD positions on CRJ or maybe even EMJ (displaced F/O's too junior to hold DFW) in the near future. Sucks for new-hires, but for some local DFW more senior F/O's, good news if that occurs. It wouldn't be a surprise, as displacements are a normal part of the airline pilot life.

Yeah, keep hearing that from some captains on training but I don't think thats happening. Im willing to commute in order to fly the E175.

AdiosMikeFox 07-06-2016 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2156972)
So you say this isn't true and made up and then it IS true ?



A pretzel calls ME twisted ? Too funny.



I'll say it's exactly as true as the rumor you're peddling.

Hint: I have no clue who anybody speculating about the rumor is despite your conspiracy delusions.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2156976)
Yeah, keep hearing that from some captains on training but I don't think thats happening. Im willing to commute in order to fly the E175.

Historically, they loath to displace due to training costs as a displacement usually causes downstream displacements making it exponentially expensive (hence the provision that slams the door on present pilots from bidding the E-175 in the first place), but maybe with the situation as now (and likely to get far worse), they may have no choice to do that on a limited basis simply to staff from within what they apparently cannot staff from outside.

We shall see how this potential develops, but despite the deflective cackling of others, it IS a valid consideration.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2156978)
I'll say it's exactly as true as the rumor you're peddling.

Hint: I have no clue who anybody speculating about the rumor is despite your conspiracy delusions.

That's pretty twisted, if you ask me.

But once again, yes, everything you perceive as a negative is unsubstantiated rumor, idle speculation or downright wrong, etc. It's OK, I expect nothing different from you. At least you're predictable. ;)

Carry on my wayward son.

highflyer1980 07-06-2016 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2156966)
This must be unsubstantiated rumor, idle opinion and speculation as everything has been reported as "calm" at Envoy by a supposedly unbiased source. :rolleyes:



Update. Upper management went over said supervisors authority and granted him travel. However, they are interpreting the company rules to their own benefit. Even though he did call fatigue with legitimate reasons, and then seek authorization to travel as he should, supervisor denied him travel and said he was still on duty even though released for rest. Then recommended he should go to another airline to get home.

Wow. Just wow.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2156988)
Update. Upper management went over said supervisors authority and granted him travel. However, they are interpreting the company rules to their own benefit. Even though he did call fatigue with legitimate reasons, and then seek authorization to travel as he should, supervisor denied him travel and said he was still on duty even though released for rest. Then recommended he should go to another airline to get home.

Wow. Just wow.

.....and you can be sure he's going to tell every pilot he knows or will listen about this and THIS is what makes a difference in how Airlines are perceived by prospective pilots.

AdiosMikeFox 07-06-2016 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2156966)
This must be unsubstantiated rumor, idle opinion and speculation as everything has been reported as "calm" at Envoy by a supposedly unbiased source. :rolleyes:



Nothing unsubstantiated about it as you found out. I personally spoke to two pilots that this has happened to. But don't believe anything I say...because conspiracy and all that.


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