Yes, everyone who posts something you disagree with gets slapped with the ubiquitous "troll" label. :cool: You guys have used that too much, in so many directions, it's now become meaningless on any Envoy thread.

..... and about as effective as Envoy's pilot attraction scheme's. :rolleyes:

I don't get the churn of trolls on websites like this. They show up, say a lot of stupid stuff for a while, then disappear. New ones pop up, and they repeat the process. There's something wrong in the brains of these people where they feel that being a ***k ***d and spewing BS somehow OK.

Go the hell outside. It's summer time. Get off the F|||||| keyboard and talk to real humans, if you can manage being decent and not getting punched in the face. Go have a beer. Play with the kids. Sit by the pool (without reaching for your phone to read forums). Get some exercise. You're not a real troll and you won't turn to stone upon contact with the sunlight.

Time enough to be trapped indoors hunched over a keyboard during the winter.

Or not.

Thank goodness bandwidth is so cheap these days.

Just like the claims here that AAG/Envoy will "step up to the plate", when things get bad enough, so might Delta. Actually, Delta is bringing much of their regional flying back home to mainline, whereas AAG is doubling own in the beloved RJ. That means AAG will have to have some way of staffing said operation and more importantly keeping pilots in those positions or the house of cards collapses.

You can't keep this house of cards from collapsing, if you flow everyone out of it fairly soon. I expect the flow-thru faucet to drip very slow knowing most at Envoy are committed no matter how bad it gets. The operation will steadily contract, sure, but at the rate of outside attrition and maybe some small amount of future flowing. Apparently a junior AA F/O recently told Isom during a cockpit visit about the fleet, merger and integration and his concern about future furlough and his non-commital response included something along the lines of, "well, no airline's ever had 15,000 pilots before". Interesting statement and personally, I don't see that necessarily as a furlough warning, but I could definitely see AA stop hiring in the future for an extended time once synergies kick in.

It would be a great way to maximize staffing at the AA WO regionals as again, most still won't move laterally to the shrinking regionals of Delta and United and would leave anyway to main lines themselves or LCC's. I think it prudent to brace for the reasonable possibility of another trip down the flow-thru to the runway of broken dreams at some point in the future and Envoy tenures will be substantially longer then expected. After all, considering the new-hire well is all but dry, the alternative is a multi-billion dollar faux paux of owning a parking lot of new RJ's that do nothing but sit there looking shiny, but generating no revenue.

Jum....a guy that calls himself envoy1, starts posting in december. Only have "6 months" in the forum and in the company. Never asked a question about anything and it was a complete cheerleader. Stop posting, then it suddenly reappears saying that he "talked to friends", never asked a question in any Endevour forum.

Open your eyes and learn how to identify a person that is not genuine. If you're so blind maybe you should get you eye cataracts removed.

Many of us have been wondering about your group of trolls doing exactly this too. You guys always show up in tag-team formation to any post you perceive that's opposite your interests and frequently daily and all day too.

Ahh, to be an angry pot on an oven of noisy kettle's. :rolleyes:

You mean like the 3 or 4 characters who arrived here earlier this year whose glowing first posts were all blatant Envoy plugs ? Oh my eyes are open. Wide. Why don't YOU open yours and acknowledge by all present metrics, Envoy is destined to shrink drastically, the upgrade and flow numbers seriously inaccurate, the QWL there as reported by Envoy pilots themselves has never been worse and that you and others continually try to convince everyone of the opposite in spite of all that.

In reality, it's not that you're blind, it's just you think everyone else is stupid. :cool:

Might not be an option.

Rumor from another supposedly from multiple sources like instructors, scheduling and recruiting says they may displace from DFW E-175 F/O to ORD positions on CRJ or maybe even EMJ (displaced F/O's too junior to hold DFW) in the near future. Sucks for new-hires, but for some local DFW more senior F/O's, good news if that occurs. It wouldn't be a surprise, as displacements are a normal part of the airline pilot life.

Good for you, glad you didn't get suckered in by the flow carrot. Will probably be the best move you'll make, reducing stress levels is huge, especially in the toxic environment that plagues Envoy.

Absolutely no reason to stick around, I left too and couldn't be happier. So many better options out there.

Oh, come on. Go play your games someplace else, we're done with your reruns.