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AdiosMikeFox 07-06-2016 09:40 AM

I just skimmed over the info on the other sites and they made up the displacement suggestion on their own... It goes like this:

1) Hooray! Upgrades!
2) But where will they get the pilots?
3) They will have to displace pilots (says some dude who pulled this out of his @zz)
4) OMG! Displacements!
5) Eaglefly drags manufactured rumor over to APC: OMG! ENY Sucks! You're all idiots! Cheerleaders! Displacements likely on the horizon!

Next, please.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2156874)
I just skimmed over the info on the other sites and they made up the displacement suggestion on their own... It goes like this:

1) Hooray! Upgrades!
2) But where will they get the pilots?
3) They will have to displace pilots (says some dude who pulled this out of his @zz)
4) OMG! Displacements!
5) Eaglefly drags manufactured rumor over to APC: OMG! ENY Sucks! You're all idiots! Cheerleaders! Displacements likely on the horizon!

Next, please.

That's one interpretation. Considering the source, it's a predictable one. Yes, at this point it is rumor though, hence the term used. But it's funny (and revealing) you criticize me for embellishing info from there and misrepresenting it here and then do the Exact same thing with your #5. I didn't say "Envoy sucks", etc., that's just your spin (and you looooove to spin, don't you :D). What's more telling though is 2), "But where will they get the pilots ?".

Seems many there see the forest through the trees (even the diseased ones thrown up here by the usual suspects to deflect reality) and know all too well Envoy is in serious trouble. Of course, if Wiki is correct, maybe not as it will need 900 less pilots in a few years. Anyhoo, thanks for the chuckle, even if it was predictable.

Jersdawg 07-06-2016 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2156854)
Check TalkAirline. According to Mr. Calm, you'll find it there. ;)

C'mon man, there are hundreds of rumors out there. This one has no more credibility than any other.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2156897)
C'mon man, there are hundreds of rumors out there. This one has no more credibility than any other.

C'mon man, read what I posted instead of just accepting what the usual eaglefly rock throwers say. I didn't say it was credible, I said it was rumor. The original poster implied credibility by claiming multiple sources.

But, it will be interesting to hear their spin should it actually be true and occur. I'm sure they'll all deflect, deflect, deflect and find a way to turn it into more anti-eaglefly rhetoric. ;)

highflyer1980 07-06-2016 11:51 AM

Commuters beware! Buddy just got denied travel after a legit fatigue call. Evidently they are holding the commuters hostage in hub now for any fatigue or sick call. No going home for you slave!

AdiosMikeFox 07-06-2016 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2156896)
That's one interpretation. Considering the source, it's a predictable one. Yes, at this point it is rumor though, hence the term used. But it's funny (and revealing) you criticize me for embellishing info from there and misrepresenting it here and then do the Exact same thing with your #5. I didn't say "Envoy sucks", etc., that's just your spin (and you looooove to spin, don't you :D). What's more telling though is 2), "But where will they get the pilots ?".

Seems many there see the forest through the trees (even the diseased ones thrown up here by the usual suspects to deflect reality) and know all too well Envoy is in serious trouble. Of course, if Wiki is correct, maybe not as it will need 900 less pilots in a few years. Anyhoo, thanks for the chuckle, even if it was predictable.



F in English for you.

I engaged in sarcasm and hyperbole to make a point. It is a deliberate embellishment for effect. That is obvious. I did not cite an obviously made-up rumor on another forum as a basis for rumor-mongering with the inference that there might be some truth to it.

You greasily squirm out from under every criticism of your garbage posting only to pop up pointing your finger at your critic.

Anybody with access to those forums can easily verify the source of the rumor, however there are those here who cannot and your post is deliberately disingenuous, misleading those without access or the willingness to do some due diligence.

The rumor is Flat Out BS. Stop implying it is anything other than made-up BS.

Unless you have an source other than idle opinion and speculation on an internet forum?

No? Didn't think so.

AdiosMikeFox 07-06-2016 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2156943)
Commuters beware! Buddy just got denied travel after a legit fatigue call. Evidently they are holding the commuters hostage in hub now for any fatigue or sick call. No going home for you slave!



This has unfortunately been the case since last year. They have occasionally done the same for sick calls as well.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2156943)
Commuters beware! Buddy just got denied travel after a legit fatigue call. Evidently they are holding the commuters hostage in hub now for any fatigue or sick call. No going home for you slave!

I thought I read something to the effect that they will allow travel home after a sick call once you make contact with your supervisor (don't remember about fatigue). IIRC, it was a union blast.

So now, not any more ?

Sad if true and THIS is the type of thing AAG doesn't own, but Envoy management who could change if they wanted to. It's also,the type of things that spreads among pilots directly and truly impacts recruitment as opposed to the banter on forums.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox (Post 2156956)
F in English for you.

I engaged in sarcasm and hyperbole to make a point. It is a deliberate embellishment for effect. That is obvious. I did not cite an obviously made-up rumor on another forum as a basis for rumor-mongering with the inference that there might be some truth to it.

You greasily squirm out from under every criticism of your garbage posting only to pop up pointing your finger at your critic.

Anybody with access to those forums can easily verify the source of the rumor, however there are those here who cannot and your post is deliberately disingenuous, misleading those without access or the willingness to do some due diligence.

The rumor is Flat Out BS. Stop implying it is anything other than made-up BS.

Unless you have an source other than idle opinion and speculation on an internet forum?

No? Didn't think so.

Coming from a bohunk back room teacher like you, an "F" is a badge of honor. I guess the hostage taking another describes as coming directly from his buddy is "idle opinion and speculation" too, eh ?

You Internet teaching school graduates are all the same; F in reality and A in malarkey production.

eaglefly 07-06-2016 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2156943)
Commuters beware! Buddy just got denied travel after a legit fatigue call. Evidently they are holding the commuters hostage in hub now for any fatigue or sick call. No going home for you slave!

This must be unsubstantiated rumor, idle opinion and speculation as everything has been reported as "calm" at Envoy by a supposedly unbiased source. :rolleyes:


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