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Jvw700 09-14-2016 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by regionaljob (Post 2203097)
Company pays for ATP, so you don't need to worry about that. All flight time counts towards the 1500 hours, and I'm guessing that Envoy will take any other time that the regs allow. Here is an analysis of pay for the 12 major regionals for compensation over 5 and 10 year periods:

Regional Pilot Job Pay Comparator ? RPJ ? Regional Pilot Job

Envoy has set themselves up very nicely, though you will still find some folks online who are still upset about the whole 16-years of stagnation that led up to the present day. If you need any other info/guidance you can signup at the website or PM me directly here. Good luck!


Honest question, are you a recruiter or just a regular line guy?

nemich 09-14-2016 07:41 PM

My question was if you can start training with 1480 or so and credit part 142 sim time towards ATP like many companies do now... Can't find info anywhere...

ajm757 09-14-2016 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by nemich (Post 2203108)
My question was if you can start training with 1480 or so and credit part 142 sim time towards ATP like many companies do now... Can't find info anywhere...

I had a friend go to training at another WO'd with 1450. I'm pretty sure it would be the same for Envoy.

regionaljob 09-14-2016 07:50 PM

Regular line guy. I know all the BS that we've been through: I spent my entire first year sitting ready reserve between commuting to NYC. But the numbers don't lie. In between finally holding a line, picking up 200% premium, and the $2,500 a month bonus, I'm making what I'd be making as a reserve Captain. I'm working my tail off, but things are getting better. Of course, to be fair, I wasn't here for the whole bankruptcy contract followed by merger concession kick in the throat combo.

Buzzlightyear 09-14-2016 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by regionaljob (Post 2203122)
Apply to Envoy. Round up your numbers to 1500 if you are that close. When the recruiter calls you four hours later you can ask them. They want new hires, so they'll do what they legally can. If they can't, they'll get you taken care of as soon as you hit your numbers. It is definitely a labor market right now. Don't be shy.

This is not sound advice. Do not lie to get noticed. Be truthful always. A new hire was recently fired for lying.

rollercoaster 09-14-2016 08:06 PM

Currently, envoy's most junior Captain = 8.5 years. Most junior flow through = 16+ years. Recent announcement is strictly bait to attract new hires.

Reserve life at envoy sucks. Hard line-holder at envoy also sucks. Mostly non-commutable 4-day trips with 11 days off a month. No duty or trip rigs.

Horrible quality of life at envoy right now. I'd seek elsewhere.

rollercoaster 09-14-2016 08:07 PM

Currently, envoy's most junior Captain = 8.5 years. Most junior flow through = 16+ years. Recent announcement is strictly bait to attract new hires.

Reserve life at envoy sucks. Hard line-holder at envoy also sucks. Mostly non-commutable 4-day trips with 11 days off a month. No duty or trip rigs.

Horrible quality of life at envoy right now. I'd seek elsewhere.

rollercoaster 09-14-2016 08:07 PM

Currently, envoy's most junior Captain = 8.5 years. Most junior flow through = 16+ years. Recent announcement is strictly bait to attract new hires.

Reserve life at envoy sucks. Hard line-holder at envoy also sucks. Mostly non-commutable 4-day trips with 11 days off a month. No duty or trip rigs.

Horrible quality of life at envoy right now. I'd seek elsewhere.

ajm757 09-14-2016 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear (Post 2203138)
This is not sound advice. Do not lie to get noticed. Be truthful always. A new hire was recently fired for lying.

what did he lie about?

Jvw700 09-14-2016 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by regionaljob (Post 2203148)
Rounding 20-hours to an even 1500 is hardly lying, especially if you discuss it with the recruiter when they call you. Saying that you have never failed a check-ride and having the company PRIA discover you have is lying, and for that you will get fired. If they leave no room on the application for doubt that is one thing, though I don't think that they'd refuse to interview a candidate because of a twenty hour discrepancy that was self-reported before the interview. I stand by my interpretation.

Wait, so you are advocating he pencil whip his logbook or falsify his application knowing full well he doesn't quite have the 1500?


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