Envoy or Mesa?
01-10-2016 | 05:43 AM
#141
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If you're not hating, you're a salesman. If you have tempered hope for the future, you're drinking the koolaid. If you don't maintain unreasonable hate for everything Envoy, you're blind.
Everything's "If you're not with us, you're against us" with you and your pal. Such a black and white world you live in. No room for grey. No room for nuance. Must be so stressful to constantly have to maintain that level of rage. Doc got you on blood pressure meds yet?
Everything's "If you're not with us, you're against us" with you and your pal. Such a black and white world you live in. No room for grey. No room for nuance. Must be so stressful to constantly have to maintain that level of rage. Doc got you on blood pressure meds yet?
01-10-2016 | 05:52 AM
#142
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If you're not hating, you're a salesman. If you have tempered hope for the future, you're drinking the koolaid. If you don't maintain unreasonable hate for everything Envoy, you're blind.
Everything's "If you're not with us, you're against us" with you and your pal. Such a black and white world you live in. No room for grey. No room for nuance. Must be so stressful to constantly have to maintain that level of rage. Doc got you on blood pressure meds yet?
Everything's "If you're not with us, you're against us" with you and your pal. Such a black and white world you live in. No room for grey. No room for nuance. Must be so stressful to constantly have to maintain that level of rage. Doc got you on blood pressure meds yet?
Reading the other two Envoy forums accurately reflect what's happening here at the company. On here though, it's obvious there are management plants that are directed to paint Envoy in the most positive light. Even in the Major threads, there is nowhere near the rah rah cheering for the company as there is here.
It's obvious that you are on the cheering squad. The question is, are you a company management plant?
01-10-2016 | 05:53 AM
#143
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Do you mean, like a Piedmont plant?
01-10-2016 | 08:59 AM
#144
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My perceptions of what is happening at the company are based on reality. There's no rage with me. It's either black or white. No shades of gray. Give the company a break (shade of gray) and they will quickly turn that into black.
Reading the other two Envoy forums accurately reflect what's happening here at the company. On here though, it's obvious there are management plants that are directed to paint Envoy in the most positive light. Even in the Major threads, there is nowhere near the rah rah cheering for the company as there is here.
It's obvious that you are on the cheering squad. The question is, are you a company management plant?
Reading the other two Envoy forums accurately reflect what's happening here at the company. On here though, it's obvious there are management plants that are directed to paint Envoy in the most positive light. Even in the Major threads, there is nowhere near the rah rah cheering for the company as there is here.
It's obvious that you are on the cheering squad. The question is, are you a company management plant?
You admit that you don't care if people believe what you post here. Then why do you do it? Pointless trolling really makes you look pathetic.
01-10-2016 | 09:03 AM
#145
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It's relative to other regional carriers reserve systems. They have to award proffers in seniority order and have to call RAPs in reverse seniority order. In the end, we are still working for a regional airline. But yes, I do agree, there is still much room for improvement.
Personally, I think anyone looking to enter the 121 world today should be thinking more long term. As much as the reserve system will affect someone's life now, in 20 years, while flying wide body international flights on the 777, I don't think someone will remember their life on reserve at whatever regional. One has to balance between pay and qol life now with whatever course they feel will get them to a mainline seniority list the quickest (and with varying degrees of certainty).
Will envoy honor the flow or stop? Will RAH declare bankruptcy or shrink? Will Mesa still be able to attract new hires without increasing compensation? Will Commutair be bought by another carrier? In the end, I think one can only make an educated guess and hope for the best. If you would have told me years ago that TWA would be out of business, US Air would merge with AA, that AirTran would one day be Southwest and that a Colgan pilot would one day "flow" to Delta, I would have never believed it. Crazy Industry.
Personally, I think anyone looking to enter the 121 world today should be thinking more long term. As much as the reserve system will affect someone's life now, in 20 years, while flying wide body international flights on the 777, I don't think someone will remember their life on reserve at whatever regional. One has to balance between pay and qol life now with whatever course they feel will get them to a mainline seniority list the quickest (and with varying degrees of certainty).
Will envoy honor the flow or stop? Will RAH declare bankruptcy or shrink? Will Mesa still be able to attract new hires without increasing compensation? Will Commutair be bought by another carrier? In the end, I think one can only make an educated guess and hope for the best. If you would have told me years ago that TWA would be out of business, US Air would merge with AA, that AirTran would one day be Southwest and that a Colgan pilot would one day "flow" to Delta, I would have never believed it. Crazy Industry.
01-10-2016 | 11:07 AM
#146
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why dont you answer the basic questions others have ask
about you hire date and other things. that is because you dont work here.
01-10-2016 | 11:14 AM
#147
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My perceptions of what is happening at the company are based on reality. There's no rage with me. It's either black or white. No shades of gray. Give the company a break (shade of gray) and they will quickly turn that into black.
Reading the other two Envoy forums accurately reflect what's happening here at the company. On here though, it's obvious there are management plants that are directed to paint Envoy in the most positive light. Even in the Major threads, there is nowhere near the rah rah cheering for the company as there is here.
It's obvious that you are on the cheering squad. The question is, are you a company management plant?
Reading the other two Envoy forums accurately reflect what's happening here at the company. On here though, it's obvious there are management plants that are directed to paint Envoy in the most positive light. Even in the Major threads, there is nowhere near the rah rah cheering for the company as there is here.
It's obvious that you are on the cheering squad. The question is, are you a company management plant?
If anybody wants to know any information about Envoy pm me, I will
tell you the good and the bad about envoy.
02-19-2016 | 08:18 AM
#148
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I have been giving Mesa serious consideration as I live in Houston. If you have anymore info on mesa, base upgrades, open times, any info would be appreciated.
02-19-2016 | 08:21 AM
#149
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Seriously, trying to pick between Envoy and Mesa is kind of like deciding if you'd rather have Charles Manson or John Wayne Gacy as a roomate.
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