Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2105299)

Keep it factual and actually, I'd probably leave from boredom.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2105299)

A battle for the ethical high ground among liars ? LOL ! Only at Envoy. :cool:

Well, regardless of that, I would hardly post on Envoy threads if it wasn't for the the sludge from a half dozen on the EST side. AFAIC, at this point you all can sell Envoy until your eyes pop out, I just question dubious claims which then seems to lead to counter-attack from nefarious people. Keep it factual and actually, I'd probably leave from boredom.

Of course, we know that isn't likely in the future, eh ? ;)

Originally Posted by boiler07 (Post 2105534)

It has nothing to do with the "ethical high ground", and everything to do with your claim of it being "self inflicted". Try to concentrate on what I write and not get carried away like with the others.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2105548)

I stand by my claim.

How's that for concentration ?

Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2105644)

I'm with eaglefly. Because you guys, the Sales Team, are such arrogant know-it-alls. That's the reason you get such pushback. You leave zero room for anyone with an opinion other than what matches yours to state their viewpoint. It's just immediate attacks and look how stupid this guy is. If you Envoy Police weren't like that, then I might have stated my initial opinion and with no Sales Team pressure, might have been it.

Originally Posted by boiler07 (Post 2105706)

Did you even bother reading the last few replies?

First of all, why are you so quick to lump me in with the "sales team"?

Neither of you post 100% factual information. They are biased towards positive and you towards the negative. You each push back because you, along with everyone else, see the biases in each other's posts. The cycle continues with each side continuing to cry about who threw the first punch.

Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2105717)

If you aren't a salesman, then why do you jump in and have to rebut any negative comment about Envoy?

I posted some actual facts yesterday about the dismal Envoy hiring numbers. It seems that the Sales Team has their heads collectively buried in the sand and don't want to address actual numbers that show Envoy has a very steep hill to climb to make this flow work beyond the 824.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2105727)

I can't believe some that "just got hired at Allegiant", have that much time to worry about envoy and not his training.

Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2105717)

If you aren't a salesman, then why do you jump in and have to rebut any negative comment about Envoy?

I posted some actual facts yesterday about the dismal Envoy hiring numbers. It seems that the Sales Team has their heads collectively buried in the sand and don't want to address actual numbers that show Envoy has a very steep hill to climb to make this flow work beyond the 824.