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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
(Post 2147434)
We are ****ed off because we had priority with Airways! We lost priority because the AA pilots and FA's wanted to protect their retiree's benefits. What ever, tired of playing this sick little game, AA was going out of business for a reason.
AA was supposed to be stand alone, but AA Pilots and FAs signed a contract with the devil. Then the other creditors pushed for the merger. |
Call me crazy but giving a pimply face CFI who hasn't graduated college yet a mainline priority ****es me off as well. It dilutes the value of our benefits greatly. It's bad enough all the WO employees and family get to travel as D2s. You guys don't work for AA, you are too a contractor, no different than AWAC, Republic, etc. for American Eagle flights.
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Originally Posted by Name User
(Post 2147465)
Call me crazy but giving a pimply face CFI who hasn't graduated college yet a mainline priority ****es me off as well. It dilutes the value of our benefits greatly. It's bad enough all the WO employees and family get to travel as D2s. You guys don't work for AA, you are too a contractor, no different than AWAC, Republic, etc. for American Eagle flights.
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Originally Posted by GodIsGood
(Post 2147518)
Does it **ss you off that you and your family are also able to non-rev on any of the WO flights? It's a two-way street.
Also can I non rev on the C172 with the CFI? What pass benefits do they bring? An AWAC employee has a higher non rev priority on their metal. I'd be fine if it was similar with the WOs. Delta runs their non rev program the same way with Endeavor I believe. At least we can still book jumpseats. |
Originally Posted by Name User
(Post 2147465)
Call me crazy but giving a pimply face CFI who hasn't graduated college yet a mainline priority ****es me off as well. It dilutes the value of our benefits greatly. It's bad enough all the WO employees and family get to travel as D2s. You guys don't work for AA, you are too a contractor, no different than AWAC, Republic, etc. for American Eagle flights.
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
(Post 2147529)
Technically the three regionals that AAG ownes are not contractors, that would be RJET, SKYW, XJT, etc. American Airlines does not own any regional, AAG is the owner of all three regionals and is also the owner of American Airlines. So AAG ownes four airlines and the employees of AAG all have the same travel benefits. The 3 regionals are not contractors (there are no CPAs) they are just pawns in the AAG family. If you believe you are entitled to higher priority than other employees of AAG then you should try to negotiate it into your next contract.
However with at the end of the US Airways days we, including family, traveled as SD2P or in other words the same as mainline parents (D2P today). I think that was fair. However, post merger we are AAC which is above D3 but below D2P. Also: -No access to NRTP or Jetaway -Must list for American Flights through MyID Travel, which is about the most piece of garbage website in the world. -Pay $1.58 PER SEGMENT to list on that site. PHL-CLT-DFW? $1.58 x 2 please. We already pay $75 per year + $50 per dependent to have travel benefits with American so that cost per segment is an insult. And the best for last: NO ONLINE CHECK IN!!! First come first first serve 24hrs prior right? Better go to the airport the day before you vacation to checked in. At your vacation destination and trying to get home? Better get there early and wait in line behind all the pax at the counter that have to check their 13 58lb bags for a family of 4 so that you and your family can get check in. Oh...and good luck trying to get an agent in FRA, CDG, etc. to understand that an AAC is an actual non-rev priority code. They will argue that you are on a ZED and will list you as such putting you behind everyone including D3's. Damn skippy we are ****ed off PilotJ3. The Irony? If you need a ZED we can no longer use MyId Travel for that now. Have to get a paper ZED from the company at least 5 days prior. |
Originally Posted by toolowterrain
(Post 2147584)
No one thinks that that we should have a higher priority than mainline OR WO employees. Thats fair.
However with at the end of the US Airways days we, including family, traveled as SD2P or in other words the same as mainline parents (D2P today). I think that was fair. However, post merger we are AAC which is above D3 but below D2P. Also: -No access to NRTP or Jetaway -Must list for American Flights through MyID Travel, which is about the most piece of garbage website in the world. -Pay $1.58 PER SEGMENT to list on that site. PHL-CLT-DFW? $1.58 x 2 please. We already pay $75 per year + $50 per dependent to have travel benefits with American so that cost per segment is an insult. And the best for last: NO ONLINE CHECK IN!!! First come first first serve 24hrs prior right? Better go to the airport the day before you vacation to checked in. At your vacation destination and trying to get home? Better get there early and wait in line behind all the pax at the counter that have to check their 13 58lb bags for a family of 4 so that you and your family can get check in. Oh...and good luck trying to get an agent in FRA, CDG, etc. to understand that an AAC is an actual non-rev priority code. They will argue that you are on a ZED and will list you as such putting you behind everyone including D3's. Damn skippy we are ****ed off PilotJ3. The Irony? If you need a ZED we can no longer use MyId Travel for that now. Have to get a paper ZED from the company at least 5 days prior. |
Originally Posted by FourPutt
(Post 2147594)
Who do you work for? AA doesn't even have to offer non rev benefits to contract airlines, its all about what your company negotiates.
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
(Post 2147594)
Who do you work for? AA doesn't even have to offer non rev benefits to contract airlines, its all about what your company negotiates.
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