Otterbox

Should be a full week unless it's changed in the last year.

AdiosMikeFox

What, exactly, does one need to do to deserve to work at AA?

rollercoaster

Currently, envoy's most junior Captain = 8.5 years. Most junior flow through = 16+ years. Recent announcement is strictly bait to attract new hires.

Reserve life at envoy sucks. Hard line-holder at envoy also sucks. Mostly non-commutable 4-day trips with 11 days off a month. No duty or trip rigs.

Horrible quality of life at envoy right now. I'd seek elsewhere.

boiler07

LOL. My guess is angry gummer, or soon to upgrade FO, who's mad he didn't get a bigger bonus.

boiler07

post 97

Please work on your reading comprehension and rejoin us when you feel you have a stronger grasp.

rollercoaster

Did I state something non-factual? I stand by my statements and reiterate that envoy is not a good place to work.

boiler07

It's your implications which are non-factual.

People see through it anyway. Flow time has been misrepresented enough that they'd only have to go back a few pages.

Ps. Please stop spamming every single thread. We get it; you're angry.

LineUpAndPay

You're the smart guy who only sees current numbers and doesn't put thought into it. You're the kind of guy that blindly accepts release fuel numbers without actually looking at the weather.

mr25cents

Latest flow plan shows Oct '10 FO completing Captain upgrade by end of Nov '16, 6 yr upgrade is right around the corner.

Shiner

I've been off reserve awhile now, but the preassigned RAP's only suck for the most junior.

The way our reserve system works is you proffer or bid on your schedule from open time the day before you go to work. If you don't want to start early, put everything with a late show in your bid. Once you're senior enough to hold late starts (a few months on property), the preassigned RAP's are nothing more than a small irritation you have to get out of.

I don't agree with the preassigned RAP's, I think they are against the contract and hope we win the arbitration. But in reality, most guys work around it after a few months on property.

As far as lines go, 11 off is simply not the majority. There are a handful in there, but the majority are 13-14 off.

I am a commuter and I do not worry about bidding for commutability. We have a trip trade program, so any sequence can become commutable if you swap it into one. If you want to work, swap into a high time trip. If you value QOL, trade into something more commutable or with an overnight you like. Don't get me wrong, the lines could stand to improve, but there are ways around the suck.

I think there's room for improvement here. And I think AAG will be forced to make those improvements in due time. In the meantime life at Envoy is what you make it. Today is a lot better than a week ago, and a week ago is much better than a year ago.

If anyone wants a referral, send me a PM, I'd be happy to help any way that I can.


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