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09-14-2016 | 05:37 AM

#101

iFlyRC

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Originally Posted by SilentLurker

Seniority is everything. Esp for a new hire, and those considering Envoy as their #2 & #3 choice, may now consider Envoy as their #1 choice with this pay bump. Envoy is a safe choice.

Seriously, AWC, Mesa pilots should consider jumping ship... regional shuffle. Envoy, could be very last interview. QOL & mgmt relationship issues are being handled by union. Endeavor had worst problems with Delta Mgmt not even 2yrs ago.

We must always realize a Regionals is not a career destination. Get in get out

I have no doubt that Mesa is about to lose a lot of FO's to Envoy

09-14-2016 | 06:07 AM

#102

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Originally Posted by iFlyRC

I have no doubt that Mesa is about to lose a lot of FO's to Envoy

Looking forward to fly with "going sterile"...

09-14-2016 | 06:17 AM

#103

VArellano

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Just got an email saying Envoy first year FO pay is going up to $37.60. Interesting.

09-14-2016 | 06:18 AM

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Bassman1985

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From: E-175 CA

So, the new pay scheme has been approved by the MEC. Does it now go out for a pilot group vote, or is this signed, sealed and delivered?

09-14-2016 | 06:32 AM

#105

use2fly

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Originally Posted by Bassman1985

So, the new pay scheme has been approved by the MEC. Does it now go out for a pilot group vote, or is this signed, sealed and delivered?

Unfortunately, I don't think we get to vote on it. If we do, I'll vote NO. I can see how this will help get new hires, but it won't keep anyone from leaving.
If they would give us 12 days off, fix reserve and improve the schedules, they would stop the bleeding overnight.

2nd year FO

09-14-2016 | 06:42 AM

#106

airlinegypsy

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From: 737 FO

If they were serious about fixing this place, they would fix the schedules. However, until they do that I'll gladly take more money until I flow.

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09-14-2016 | 06:51 AM

#107

DilsonWic

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6.5 years here. My upgrade class doesn't start for 2 months.

09-14-2016 | 07:04 AM

#108

Aviatrx

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From: EMB145 CA

First off, the pay raises are not up for vote. We should take them even though QOL is not fixed. The pay bumps should help new hires to commit to Envoy. As far as retention goes, fixing schedules would go much further in retaining pilots. Most that are looking to leave want relief from 11days off, long monthly transition stretches, poor cadence (4 on 2 off- moving days off), and inefficient/uncommutable trips.

09-14-2016 | 07:13 AM

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Don't forget the horrible reserve rules. In fact the judge was suppose to hand down his judgment at the end of August about automatic RAP1. All quite on the western front from ALPA.

09-14-2016 | 07:18 AM

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leica typ240

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Originally Posted by Aviatrx

Most that are looking to leave want relief from 11days off, long monthly transition stretches, poor cadence (4 on 2 off- moving days off), and inefficient/uncommutable trips.

...all true, if the company fixed our schedules today, then the majority would be complaining about pay rates!!!