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Skyvector 09-28-2016 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2212650)
Growth is bad for flow. Shrinkage is good when you are flowing.

Sure thing, old man. Too bad you don't work at Envoy. But your constant predictions and babbling sure is cute..in a way that a slow kid with a helmet and spit cup is cute.

Btw: you have officially posted more in this thread than anyone else. Including people who actually work at Envoy. You have serious problems.

daOldMan 09-28-2016 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2212653)
Sure thing, old man. Too bad you don't work at Envoy. But your constant predictions and babbling sure is cute..in a way that a slow kid with a helmet and spit cup is cute.

Btw: you have officially posted more in this thread than anyone else. Including people who actually work at Envoy. You have serious problems.

Am I wrong in this? Will Envoy park airplanes and still flow people?

Would you rather have more regional pilots or mainline pilots? Growing regionals is bad, shrinking regionals is good - IF the pilots are going to mainline. That is what is happening at Envoy. You are flowing 90 in the first 90 days. That is great. And if you can not hire, the flow will slow. That is bad.

criticalaoa 09-28-2016 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 2212653)
Sure thing, old man. Too bad you don't work at Envoy. But your constant predictions and babbling sure is cute..in a way that a slow kid with a helmet and spit cup is cute.

Btw: you have officially posted more in this thread than anyone else. Including people who actually work at Envoy. You have serious problems.

Skyvector you the man! Right on point! :)

BE20 09-28-2016 11:16 AM

So what will this mean for possible new hires? Straight to NY for the next quarters worth of classes?

ju10489 09-28-2016 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by leica typ240 (Post 2212589)
...YES!!! no more commuting, life is great!



*edit*

my excitement is short-lived, just read
the letter. it's only 140/145 A/C, good news for the people on that equipment!

I've seen on another forum, you can bid for it since it's a new base..

Not sure if it's true..

copycopy 09-28-2016 11:23 AM

Not the case, from what I understand, as FO jet to jet transitions are banned by our contract.

LongTimeListenr 09-28-2016 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by blackbox348 (Post 2212590)
So what does this mean for TSA

It means approx 6 or 7 planes worth of flying is probably leaving one of the northeast carriers.

Smutter 09-28-2016 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by BE20 (Post 2212667)
So what will this mean for possible new hires? Straight to NY for the next quarters worth of classes?

Probably not, we have a lot of people dying to go back to NY. But I have no clue.

diva 09-28-2016 01:33 PM

American plans on hire 850-1000 pilots in 2017 and have requested 480 pilots to come from Envoy (40/month subject to operational limitation & needs).

Envoy sent 151 pilots to American in 2015,

so far sent 253 pilots (projecting 300-330 pilots) in 2016,

and expects to send an additional 330-480 pilots in 2017.

So far Envoy has sent 952 pilots to American.

With the recent and additional upcoming news at Envoy a new hire can expect to upgrade in less than 3 years and flow to American in 5-6 years.

If your future goal is to work for American, the largest Airline in the world, Envoy is the path to American.

It's a good time to be a Envoy pilot ! =)

ORDinary 09-28-2016 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 2212753)
American plans on hire 850-1000 pilots in 2017 and have requested 480 pilots to come from Envoy (40/month subject to operational limitation & needs).

Envoy sent 151 pilots to American in 2015,

so far sent 253 pilots (projecting 300-330 pilots) in 2016,

and expects to send between 330-480 pilots in 2017.

With the recent and additional upcoming news a new hire at Envoy can expect to upgrade in less than 3 years and flow to American in 5-6 years.

If your future goal is to work for American, the largest Airline in the world, Envoy is the path to American.

It's a good time to be a Envoy pilot ! =)

We have not sent 253 this year, we have sent under 200. Our management is telling us they plan on sending 330 next year, though it is true that AA has asked for more than that. While our schedules are still awful I agree that on the whole things are looking up. It's about time.


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