Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2270114)

See my post above. Unless you credit over 1000 hours per year, it won't happen.

Originally Posted by Eject (Post 2269705)

So, no CRJ upgrades. An average of 2 newhires getting the CRJ per month, a Shrinking CRJ training program, and about 50 CRJ CA's set to flow to AA in the next 6 months. I think we can expect the CRJ's to be leaving sooner, and at a much faster rate than 1 per month come come April.

Originally Posted by Dacuj (Post 2270098)

Exactly. The union worked hard to get flow for everybody and it's right there in black and white in the contract. If you are hired at Envoy, you will flow to American. No ifs ands or buts.

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw (Post 2270198)

The union also worked hard to get a LTFO settlement, which includes return days. Return days that have once again been blanket denied for the next month.

Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2270113)

That's my point. Guarantee is 75 hours a month, or 900 hours a year. That's $34,110 at $37.90 per hour. Plus $22,100 is $56,210.

Originally Posted by airlinegypsy (Post 2270196)

Until they change their minds again. The CRJs transferring depends on a lot of factors many of which are outside of Envoys control. The factors you mentioned are very much in their control. 50 CRJ captains flowing in the next 6 months have already been replaced. OCC status is fat right now. 2 new hires on the equipment is not for lack of new hires. Those numbers can easily be changed to fit demand. The planes may be leaving but they've said that before. Many, many times.


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Originally Posted by injun21 (Post 2270257)

This eqation is correct without per diem being added in. We aren't averaging 83 hours a month under present conditions. With all the JM it will prob be higher than $60k however.

Originally Posted by Subpilot (Post 2270286)

Per diem is not pay. If it is then we might as will also add in the cost of all the hotel rooms you get to frequent and say that new hires will earn $75k

Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2270079)

With all the bickering, mud slinging and axe grinding that goes on here, it's hard to process real information. For this reason, I wanted to post what is actually happening right now to give those that are truly interested in Envoy a picture of our current operations and what you can expect.

Envoy is hiring record numbers at present. We are hiring upwards of 60 per month. It's likely we will be hiring 70 plus sustained for 2017 in its entirety.

We are scheduled to flow record numbers to AA in 2017 as well. 330 plus is the number we are looking at presently.

New hires can make upwards of 60k on first year pay alone.

Bottom line is, Envoy is where you want to be if you want a long career at the largest, most stable major airline in the world. When looking at the history of regional carriers, Envoy quite possibly could be the best as it stands at present. No other carrier offers what Envoy is in regards to a total career path and putting you in the cockpit of an American Airlines aircraft.

Highest first year pay, most stable of all regionals as we are wholly owned by American Airlines and most of all, unrestricted flow from date of hire to AA in under 6 years. Name a regional that does all this and I might suggest you go there.

Originally Posted by moon (Post 2270087)

I might not be a new hire but I know they can't just "adjust" the flow as needed. Theyd be in violation of the contract and that's not as simple as a adjustment of the flow.