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da42pilot 01-03-2018 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 2494400)
I want a Houston base. Should I not even consider xjet? What if everyone bails and something good happens? Piedmont is a good example. Guys bailed left and right and those who stayed got rewarded.

Like the saying go, you should buy when there’s fear in the markets. Buy low, sell high..... just recognize you’re taking a chance your strategy might not work out.

Bluewaffle 01-03-2018 08:17 AM

I don’t have a crystal ball for what this announcement may be but I do have a few thoughts on the matter. If United does buy a stake in XJT, it would be akin to the same type of investment in CommutAir. There will likely be no “flow through” agreement as UA ALPA is strongly opposed to this. Skywest wants to shed what’s left of XJT for obvious reasons but this threatens United’s feed. A purchase of XJT by United would only serve to sustain that feed in the short term. Longer term, who knows. I wouldn’t get your hopes up for any flow agreements, combined list ect.. I worked for ASA for 9 years and I’m trying hard to get everyone I know out of there. Good Luck to all of you!

andili61 01-03-2018 11:20 AM

Conference call tomorrow Thursday 4th at 6pm. It will be very interesting to hear how many pilots would dare to ask management about the big rumor. Likewise, it will be even more thrilling to hear what management response will be. I do no expect any admission to the rumor tomorrow; however, would they deny it straightforward. Would there be any hesitation, inflection, when challenge by this sort of questions? Will see

BoeingB17 01-03-2018 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2494586)
Conference call tomorrow Thursday 4th at 6pm. It will be very interesting to hear how many pilots would dare to ask management about the big rumor. Likewise, it will be even more thrilling to hear what management response will be. I do no expect any admission to the rumor tomorrow; however, would they deny it straightforward. Would there be any hesitation, inflection, when challenge by this sort of questions? Will see

I would like to know how many pilots have resigned in the past two weeks. I would guess Management will not give a straight answer, but will be vague.

FlyingMaryJane 01-03-2018 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bluewaffle (Post 2494494)
I don’t have a crystal ball for what this announcement may be but I do have a few thoughts on the matter. If United does buy a stake in XJT, it would be akin to the same type of investment in CommutAir. There will likely be no “flow through” agreement as UA ALPA is strongly opposed to this. Skywest wants to shed what’s left of XJT for obvious reasons but this threatens United’s feed. A purchase of XJT by United would only serve to sustain that feed in the short term. Longer term, who knows. I wouldn’t get your hopes up for any flow agreements, combined list ect.. I worked for ASA for 9 years and I’m trying hard to get everyone I know out of there. Good Luck to all of you!


I actually agree with you... although, I do think it would be smart to start the flows soon to help staff the feed and keep people which would create stability, not to mention it would deal a blow to the LCC's in the future if all the legacies started buying up their feed and give flows... why go to an LCC if you can be at a major after 5yrs or even less with all the retirement due to hit at the big 3? But, at the end of the day I also believe you are right and Ual would just keep the CPP in place and just give raises in a new contract equal to Endeavor and throw some signing bonuses for new hires equal to the others out there to make it competitive... So, if an announcement comes soon, hold off on the cheering and jumping for joy because I dont think much will change on the career progression side of things... but some nice $25-$30hr raises (Uniteds money) across the board in a new contract to be competitive is gonna be nice for everyone and some extra bonuses! That's the most likely scenario I'm seeing...

Kilroy 01-03-2018 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2494586)
Conference call tomorrow Thursday 4th at 6pm. It will be very interesting to hear how many pilots would dare to ask management about the big rumor. Likewise, it will be even more thrilling to hear what management response will be. I do no expect any admission to the rumor tomorrow; however, would they deny it straightforward. Would there be any hesitation, inflection, when challenge by this sort of questions? Will see

If I don’t hear anything other than United is buying us with a flow attachment or Delta has decided to continue our contract with ATL growing again then I’m out. I will make the lateral move until something better comes along.

TheBlueBaron 01-03-2018 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by BoeingB17 (Post 2494640)
I would like to know how many pilots have resigned in the past two weeks. I would guess Management will not give a straight answer, but will be vague.

Talked to the base secretary at DFW today. I asked her about attrition and she looked on her computer and found 12 resignations in the last 2 days (1 ERJ, 11 CRJ). She wasn't sure if that was all, but thats what she could see.

Mine goes in next week :D!!

Kilroy 01-03-2018 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron (Post 2494811)
Talked to the base secretary at DFW today. I asked her about attrition and she looked on her computer and found 12 resignations in the last 2 days (1 ERJ, 11 CRJ). She wasn't sure if that was all, but thats what she could see.

Mine goes in next week :D!!

Where you off to??

TheBlueBaron 01-04-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Kilroy (Post 2494824)
Where you off to??

Southwest

filler

SkipperBaloo 01-04-2018 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Kilroy (Post 2494772)
If I don’t hear anything other than United is buying us with a flow attachment or Delta has decided to continue our contract with ATL growing again then I’m out. I will make the lateral move until something better comes along.

I would start filling out your apps then. LGA closing by end of May 2018 and maybe TYS opens on the 145. Anything from United would be further down the road and too late to save this place. Maybe they throw money at us but I really dont see a flow in the immediate future if at all.


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