oh,brother...here we go.

 

I too started when the Ships were wood & the Men were steel.

Beating a dead horse here. He could never understand what it was like & the circumstances, both macro & micro, that caused some to not be able to move on. This Business requires a bit of luck & fortuitous timing.

 

Nobody here is questioning how you spend your time off.

 

 

United most likely will not offer flow any time soon. The CPP program is working for them and will be offered at more regionals. In the future a higher percentage of classes will be filled by CPP pilots from various airlines. I doubt you’ll ever see a deal where you’re given a mainline seniority number when you hire on as a regional pilot. A military pilot hiring on after a 20 year career isn’t going to be on equal ground as a beginning pilot at the regional. United wants to be able to pick and choose who they hire (good luck figuring out what they want). The CPP isn’t a guaranteed job, but it is a guaranteed chance to start the hiring process. That is more than you had before. You’re still free to apply to all of the airlines and see what happens. After an applicant meets the requirements it is mostly dumb luck that gets you an invitation to interview. The pilot with 5,000 hours has just as good of a chance of getting that call as one with 20,000. Some will luck out and get hired at a major very early in their careers, and some will never get the call. All you can do is make sure you have the 4 year degree and build a quality resume and hope for the best. I think that the attrition that all of he legacy carriers are going to be having most will get that call, it just might not come at the time of their choosing.

 

The CPP was designed as a recruiting and retention tool. I'd argue that it's failed badly at that. The wholy owned American carriers are cleaning United's clock when it comes to those metrics.

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You’re probably right, but United doesn’t have a shortage of applicants. The mainline pilots want to hold the line on scope, bring the flying back in house, and eliminate rather than protect much of the regional feed. If they were to buy 50 small airbus or 737’s they could park 125 of the small 50 seat jets. The existing 76 seat jets would serve the small markets and mainline would serve all hub to hub and other markets. The pilot shortage is going to make the current model of high frequency on small jets hard to maintain. I think we will see a transition to an operation with fewer flights on larger planes as a result. The mainline narrow body fleet will resemble a Southwest style operation used to feed the long haul flights. Mainline hiring will most likely increase, but each position created will be at the expense of 2 or 3 regional seats.

 

And Sydney/Will F thanks you for that.

 

I wish things were as you said, but management at United wants relief scope to grow regional. Scott Kirby is trying to do that. Yeah you may argue that pilots and Union do not want scope relief. However, Let's see what would they say if company offered them 20 bucks per hour increases or so.

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I want to come home off of a trip and find my wife in the mood, I try to better my odds, but I really don’t expect it. Kirby does want more big jets. I think that he’d love to replace every 50 seater with a 76 seater. I also know that the United pilot group is tired. They have given concessions, had seniority adjustments with a merger, age 60 change, and years of stagnation. Mainline shrunk while the regionals mushroomed post 9/11. The pilots are saying no more. Kirby probably could buy us off, but bringing those planes to mainline or replacing them with small 737’s or 319’s will most likely be cheaper. Scope is a line in the sand issue over any other section.