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Old 08-18-2018, 11:56 AM
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What senority are the people flowing to United currently? I have a few friends looking around and when they asked me I had no idea.

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2005 hires should be going in the next couple of months.
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2005 hires should be going in the next couple of months.
Wow. Thirteen years.
Well, at 19+ years I guess I can’t say much.
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Wow. Thirteen years.
Well, at 19+ years I guess I can’t say much.
It won't be taking 13 years for people at the bottom end of the pool. The "flow" time will likely go down to around 4-5 years in 2020.
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It won't be taking 13 years for people at the bottom end of the pool. The "flow" time will likely go down to around 4-5 years in 2020.

With hiring at UAL at its current pace I would predict a new hire could be at United in 3-4 years. There are not that many in the CPP pool. We all know that hiring rate could change up or down very quickly!
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2005 in the sept classes
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Old 08-18-2018, 06:10 PM
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It won't be taking 13 years for people at the bottom end of the pool. The "flow" time will likely go down to around 4-5 years in 2020.
Yep. I have had this conversation on Envoy for AA. 2007 is flowing, 11 years for them. How can they tell newbies 5 or 6 years?

Because there is a gap of few hires until 2014. I said just a few years ago they were flowing 25 year Envoy Pilots. If today they told a new hire 25 years it would be laughable.

My example with Envoy was if flow was 300 a year and hires in the flowing year were 100, they would flow through a couple or three years in a year of flows. Then, when they hit 2014/2015 hires there are a lot more of that DOH.

Hiring by the majors is going to increase over the next handful of years. So numbers quoted are probably not too far off. Of course, hiring will be so rapid then that flows will not mean much in a few years.
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Wow. Thirteen years.
Well, at 19+ years I guess I can’t say much.
God.

ASA got screwed in so many dimensions.

I want to puke.
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God.

ASA got screwed in so many dimensions.

I want to puke.
The first 18 of those years was by choice, right?
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