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Old 09-16-2018, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Arliss View Post
For the voting, Alpa legal said you cannot vote on a contract that you are not currently under, so L-asa guys cannot legally vote on the l-xjt contract. I was told that came straight from alpa national legal.
Unless it’s a JCBA, which the XJT MEC chose not to pursue. Why, I don’t know, but as you can imagine some people are saying they did this just to keep ASA out of it.

Now, I don’t claim to know the real reason nor do I really care much about voting on it. Just trying to explain where some people are coming from. I’m more of the mindset that keeping it simple (what XJT’s MEC has pursued) is a safer bet as far as avoiding entanglements.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler View Post
I don’t understand what the CRJ guys can’t grasp about this simple concept. It has been said like 100 times.
A simple, yet impactful concept that wasn’t officially communicated nor adequately explained to us until what, two days ago?

I’d say 95% of us weren’t even aware it was a possibility, or even likely. We’re in the dark. Try to be a little less hostile.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler View Post
I don’t understand what the CRJ guys can’t grasp about this simple concept. It has been said like 100 times.
Just flip the scenario. Put yourself into the shoes of those under the CRJ contract. Re-ask yourself that question and it may become clearer to understand.

If not, you should get out more. Your perspective may be too narrow. Pretty common though.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
They don't get to vote on the TA..??.. lots of goofy things with the ASA/XJT merger... Just wondering if it will be senior LASA guys on the E175 or Senior LXJT...
That’s from ALPA National. You can’t votr on a contract when you are working for another. Same reason as I, at XJT, shouldn’t expect to have a vote for United’s contract.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma View Post
A simple, yet impactful concept that wasn’t officially communicated nor adequately explained to us until what, two days ago?

I’d say 95% of us weren’t even aware it was a possibility, or even likely. We’re in the dark. Try to be a little less hostile.
Your MEC knew everything that was going on. They just chose to leave you guys in the dark.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:01 PM
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Your ASA MEC/LEC chose not to tell you guys what they knew...
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757 View Post
Your ASA MEC/LEC chose not to tell you guys what they knew...
What they knew was this. 4weeks ago Joe told CS that from that point all comms put out by the XE MEC would be to all pilots.


At this point it's water under the bridge.

You know at some point everyone is gonna have to play nice and move forward as one group.
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Texxx View Post
What they knew was this. 4weeks ago Joe told CS that from that point all comms put out by the XE MEC would be to all pilots.


At this point it's water under the bridge.

You know at some point everyone is gonna have to play nice and move forward as one group.

Hopefully we can all get along. I know myself and most XJT folks will be happy to have the ASA guys over. I just hope they bring positive and cooperative attitudes. Same to be said for our side!
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757 View Post
Hopefully we can all get along. I know myself and most XJT folks will be happy to have the ASA guys over. I just hope they bring positive and cooperative attitudes. Same to be said for our side!
Yup. Stuff like PBS vs line bidding doesn’t belong in the cockpit. If you have anything to say about the other side when the uniforms are on it had better be something positive.
Over a beer at the overnight, maybe. But don’t be a jerk about it.
I’ve flown with enough bitter pilots from defunct airlines that I resolve not to be that guy.
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Old 11-10-2018, 07:44 AM
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Where are all of the guys going to? I hear that some have left to other carriers to do DECs or quick upgrades.
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