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11-30-2018 | 06:30 PM
#41
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Bingo. Personally, I regret waiting around to get rejected by the CPP. Could have been building seniority at my current carrier, and possibly made Captain by now. Someone previously stated that the Hogan is doing a good job of weeding folks like me out. To that, I say my Hogan failure is probably the best thing that's ever happened to my career. It forced me out of my comfort zone, and into a position I'm enjoying so much more than the time I spent working under that train wreck.
11-30-2018 | 07:19 PM
#42
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At least someone is on m side. I've flown with several top-notch captains who busted the cpp. Luckily one guy I really liked is in the process for JetBlue. Hope he gets it.
Two other good captains couldn't go to UA because of no 4 year degree; they got picked up by American. Good for them.
Two other good captains couldn't go to UA because of no 4 year degree; they got picked up by American. Good for them.
11-30-2018 | 07:19 PM
#43
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Bingo. Personally, I regret waiting around to get rejected by the CPP. Could have been building seniority at my current carrier, and possibly made Captain by now. Someone previously stated that the Hogan is doing a good job of weeding folks like me out. To that, I say my Hogan failure is probably the best thing that's ever happened to my career. It forced me out of my comfort zone, and into a position I'm enjoying so much more than the time I spent working under that train wreck.
11-30-2018 | 07:28 PM
#44
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At least someone is on m side. I've flown with several top-notch captains who busted the cpp. Luckily one guy I really liked is in the process for JetBlue. Hope he gets it.
Two other good captains couldn't go to UA because of no 4 year degree; they got picked up by American. Good for them.
Two other good captains couldn't go to UA because of no 4 year degree; they got picked up by American. Good for them.
As I've written before. I had to take something like the Hogan while assessing for Special Operations. But it was supplemented by a psych eval. A written psych test in and of itself is worthless.
11-30-2018 | 08:34 PM
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United is so full of themselves, and it’s going to come back to haunt them. They are busy hiring all the mid 20’s blondes and the rest of the low-time special interest folks, but when the music stops and they have to hire the rest of us joe-schmo’s, we are going to be happily working elsewhere, and they’re going to start scrambling for pilots.
Flying airplanes is more than anything that some 24 year old college HR grad knows about. Unfortunately, pilot hiring is out of the hands of pilots.
Flying airplanes is more than anything that some 24 year old college HR grad knows about. Unfortunately, pilot hiring is out of the hands of pilots.
12-01-2018 | 06:59 AM
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ACMI. No desire to ever give back to flying scheduled passenger service again. People may think it is the land of misfit pilots over here, but over the past year I haven't flown with anyone who I wouldn't trust to fly my family around. Can't say the same about some of the pilots picked up by two of the big 3. But hey, experience be damned if you gotta hit those quotas.
12-01-2018 | 08:33 AM
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ACMI. No desire to ever give back to flying scheduled passenger service again. People may think it is the land of misfit pilots over here, but over the past year I haven't flown with anyone who I wouldn't trust to fly my family around. Can't say the same about some of the pilots picked up by two of the big 3. But hey, experience be damned if you gotta hit those quotas.
I wasn't on trial like I was at UA. They made me feel guilty that I only had one or two volunteer items on my resume. I guess having a family and having min days off just isn't enough for the 25 year old HR folks. They kept asking why I haven't been to any of their job fairs. Ya know, the "special interest" fairs.
It's pathetic, actually.
12-01-2018 | 05:17 PM
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Amen. In my recent interview at an ACMI, they actually complimented me on how much time I had and how long I'd been in the left seat. It was actually a GOOD thing to them. They WANTED me to come there and I wasn't a burden on them for showing up for the interview.
I wasn't on trial like I was at UA. They made me feel guilty that I only had one or two volunteer items on my resume. I guess having a family and having min days off just isn't enough for the 25 year old HR folks. They kept asking why I haven't been to any of their job fairs. Ya know, the "special interest" fairs.
It's pathetic, actually.
I wasn't on trial like I was at UA. They made me feel guilty that I only had one or two volunteer items on my resume. I guess having a family and having min days off just isn't enough for the 25 year old HR folks. They kept asking why I haven't been to any of their job fairs. Ya know, the "special interest" fairs.
It's pathetic, actually.
12-01-2018 | 06:33 PM
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I think the emphasis on volunteerism has been exaggerated over the years. I shared a cockpit jumpseat with one of UAL’s Chief Pilots who said that it wasn’t emphasized nearly as much as people think it is, due to how difficult it is for them to verify it.
I think recruiters at job fairs emphasize it a lot, but have you ever noticed that recruiters are usually people who haven’t been at the airline very long themselves? Makes me think that the recruiters themselves may not have as much pull as we all think they do. I’ve been to a job fair or two, or three......and had one recruiter tell me one thing, only to get the exact opposite advice from another recruiter.
I think recruiters at job fairs emphasize it a lot, but have you ever noticed that recruiters are usually people who haven’t been at the airline very long themselves? Makes me think that the recruiters themselves may not have as much pull as we all think they do. I’ve been to a job fair or two, or three......and had one recruiter tell me one thing, only to get the exact opposite advice from another recruiter.
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