calmwinds

When is ExpressJet management going to move the hours down to CommutAir’s requirements in order to move on? Why are there two programs since these company’s are step-sisters?

GrumpyBear

PontiusPilot:

Thanks for the info. Already have the bachelors degree. For the TPIC I would imagine United would want 121 TPIC time or would military TPIC count toward that minimum?

Thanks again.

GB

PhantomHawk

It’s EXPRESSJET hours of service. Your previous time will not count towards the total.

PhantomHawk

I’m fairly certain that UAL dictates the terms. And the COMPANIES (plural of company) are not step-sisters. There seems to be a high likelihood of some sort of merge down the road, but for now the two aren’t associated with each other.

calmwinds

I define step-Sisters as those who have one parent that is the same. United owns over 49% of CommutAir and over 49% of ExpressJet. And, who owns the rest of ManaAir? A little research will show the rest of the ownership is also tightly entwined. (It isn’t like ExpressJet’s relationship to SkyWest, where SkyWest considered ExpressJet to be the ugly, estranged sibling.)

At CommutAir, a pilot must have flown either 1,000 hours as Pilot-in-Command -OR- 3,000 hours total in service to CommutAir. Since CommutAir is hiring street captains, a CommutAir pilot can go to United, theoretically, in just over a year after Captain IOE or just over 15 months after being hired there. Their record is just over two years from doh at CommutAir to doh at doh at United. Why would CommutAir’s pilots want to give that up in a merger of seniority lists?

PhantomHawk

Don’t know. Don’t care. Not really my problem. I’m fairly certain the pilots don’t get to decide how a merger goes down, but I’m sure you’ll be happy to enlighten me.

calmwinds

Not really, but you seem to think they are going to merge. In other airlines’ mergers, there have been votes by the pilot groups on how the seniority lists merge. But, these weren’t step sister airlines and I am sure the rules are different.

PhantomHawk

Smarter people than myself or you seem to think they are going to merge, and it does make sense. The dust is far from settling on the ASA-XJT merger, so adding another to the mix should ensure that EVERYBODY feels robbed of something they earned.

calmwinds

Like I said, they are step sisters and I am sure the rules are different from a normal merger. It is can be like, “merge or else” we will pick up our new flying.

It would speed upgrades at ExpressJet while giving CommutAir captains they are short of.

PhantomHawk

Ok. You’re right.

Translation : The easiest way to make you go away is just agree with you. Offering up a different viewpoint just results in you overstating yours again.