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Old 02-27-2019, 07:34 PM   #21  
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You are on the bottom of the list on mainline flights. Even retirees have higher priority. On our own metal, we have higher priority than mainline unless they use vacation passes at the last minute to bump you off. UAL pilots are working hard to have priority on jumpseats for all express carriers.
The argument wasn’t over jumpseat, but the seats in the back. The issue is that passenger seats are sold by United Airlines and that a 30 year employee shouldn’t get bumped by a regional new hire. You can’t go to Mesa or Express Jet and buy a ticket from point A to B. That is through the parent company. Basically, those are United routes, the seats are sold by United Airlines, and often times the airplane itself is owned by United. The various regionals are simply subcontractors paid to cover certain routes. It would be a hard sell to demand priority on another companies jumpseat, but the seats in the back are United seats, and as such United employees should be listed SA1, and the subcontractors falling below that mark.
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The best fix for the whole problem is for United to take over all this flying and do it on mainline aircraft. Then there is no argument over priority.
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The best fix for the whole problem is for United to take over all this flying and do it on mainline aircraft. Then there is no argument over priority.
We’d love to see that but unfortunately I don’t see it happening any time soon. The majors have given up scope too many times over a long period of time. It will most likely take just as long to chip away at taking it back. The current UAL MEC has told management that we won’t give up one seat, or one pound in scope relief in our current negotiations. Hopefully this will force more flying to mainline allowing current employees to advance and others to gain employment. For now we just sit back and watch the show.
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The argument wasn’t over jumpseat, but the seats in the back. The issue is that passenger seats are sold by United Airlines and that a 30 year employee shouldn’t get bumped by a regional new hire. You can’t go to Mesa or Express Jet and buy a ticket from point A to B. That is through the parent company. Basically, those are United routes, the seats are sold by United Airlines, and often times the airplane itself is owned by United. The various regionals are simply subcontractors paid to cover certain routes. It would be a hard sell to demand priority on another companies jumpseat, but the seats in the back are United seats, and as such United employees should be listed SA1, and the subcontractors falling below that mark.
Subcontractors deserve priority over mainline on the routes they cover. Use a vacation pass if you want to bump them off.
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We’d love to see that but unfortunately I don’t see it happening any time soon. The majors have given up scope too many times over a long period of time. It will most likely take just as long to chip away at taking it back. The current UAL MEC has told management that we won’t give up one seat, or one pound in scope relief in our current negotiations. Hopefully this will force more flying to mainline allowing current employees to advance and others to gain employment. For now we just sit back and watch the show.
SK will just continue to order CRJ550s, problem solved.
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It actually puts them in a higher priority, as they would be SA0V and express would be SA0X.
Actually SA0X and SA0V are the same priority. There are multiple examples of two different pass travel statuses having equal priority through the United travel program hierarchy. The difference is that most mainline employees have a longer tenure than the express employee. For example an SA0X12 would still be ahead of an SA0V15.
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