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06-10-2019, 05:24 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
The argument wasn’t over jumpseat, but the seats in the back. The issue is that passenger seats are sold by United Airlines and that a 30 year employee shouldn’t get bumped by a regional new hire. You can’t go to Mesa or Express Jet and buy a ticket from point A to B. That is through the parent company. Basically, those are United routes, the seats are sold by United Airlines, and often times the airplane itself is owned by United. The various regionals are simply subcontractors paid to cover certain routes. It would be a hard sell to demand priority on another companies jumpseat, but the seats in the back are United seats, and as such United employees should be listed SA1, and the subcontractors falling below that mark.
06-10-2019, 05:52 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by pilotnicco
Mainline pilots keep saying this... For the regionals that operate only for UAX, yes the planes are owned by UAL. However for other regionals like Republic and Skywest, we own our own A/C. They ARE NOT UAL property, they are property of Republic and Skywest, 100%. We should not be bumped off of our own airplane by a mainline pilot who flying for United Airlines. United Express is a brand name not a company. When United has 100% stake in a given company, then yeah they can have priority. Otherwise, mainline gets priority for their metal, and we get priority on our own. It's the agreement and the very least mainline can do is honor that.
06-10-2019, 07:06 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
The current deal is presently and will be honored, but it should be changed. The seats in the back belong to the parent company and a 25+ year employee of that company shouldn’t be bumped by an employee of a subcontractor who was in diapers when the mainline employee started working. The routes are mainline routes that are farmed out to the regionals. Without mainline, that airplane owned by a regional would just be a static display. Seniority should be honored.
When that plane says "UNITED" and not "UNITED EXPRESS" then by all means, a seniority system should prevail. But as long as we're making 70% less than what my other ATP, jet-typed brothers and sisters are making, slapped with an "EXPRESS" on the side and viewed as less than, our pilots will be getting priority on our own metal with regards to OUR seniority system.
I too want flying back at mainline, like much of us do. Sadly, I know it'll never happen, and even if it does, it won't be without massive concessions across the board. Hence while it'll never happen.
Last edited by A.FLOOR; 06-10-2019 at 07:17 AM.
06-10-2019, 07:56 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
The current deal is presently and will be honored, but it should be changed. The seats in the back belong to the parent company and a 25+ year employee of that company shouldn’t be bumped by an employee of a subcontractor who was in diapers when the mainline employee started working. The routes are mainline routes that are farmed out to the regionals. Without mainline, that airplane owned by a regional would just be a static display. Seniority should be honored.
06-10-2019, 10:22 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
Mainline own the seats they sell. Integrate the seniority list and end the regional flying is the best solution.
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