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SureJetz 10-07-2019 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2899912)
Who else has commuter hotels besides C5? It’s an awesome concept, but it’s certainly not “industry standard”. Wish it was.

-Commutair
-Envoy
-Piedmont
-PSA
-Go-Jet
-Trans States
-Compass

All those airlines provide commuter hotels. Generally 4 paid hotels a month. So not industry standard, but darn near. When a Trans States Holdings operator provides them that's saying something.

SureJetz 10-07-2019 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by watch (Post 2899893)
duty rigs, min day pay, commuter hotels are all great ideas and I think they would be worth bargaining for.

duty rigs / min day: if the company uses pilots efficiently, this is free.

commuter hotels: this makes it safer for pilots to commute, rather than taking red-eyes or sleeping in a crew room.

the fact that this job is easy doesn't have anything to do with my previous experience, it's an objective fact. The people who think it is hard are either blowing smoke or in the very early stages of learning.

Someone doesn't want to answer the question. You seem to have a bad attitude. Unfortunately some of the loudest people to proclaim this job is easy are also not very good at the job. Myself and others have been seeing this from some of the new hires a lot more lately.

PhantomHawk 10-07-2019 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2899942)
-Commutair
-Envoy
-Piedmont
-PSA
-Go-Jet
-Trans States
-Compass

All those airlines provide commuter hotels. Generally 4 paid hotels a month. So not industry standard, but darn near. When a Trans States Holdings operator provides them that's saying something.

Fair enough. I didn’t know that. Your MEC should aim for that as a goal.

DoSomePilotStuf 10-08-2019 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2899945)
Someone doesn't want to answer the question. You seem to have a bad attitude. Unfortunately some of the loudest people to proclaim this job is easy are also not very good at the job. Myself and others have been seeing this from some of the new hires a lot more lately.

I’m going to disagree here. It’s the jaded senior pilots with the bad attitude. You are just trying to spin it saying he has the wrong attitude because he doesn’t have that bad attitude.

You and many others want new pilots to have a worse attitude which you consider the “right” attitude. The prospects for a new hire today if you look at it from a realistic perspective are fantastic with this company. Notice I said realistic and not optimistic. I’ve been called a sunshine pumper, a recruiter, a liar and several more things on here when I said the upgrade times would drop and that the place was an opportunity. Here we are a few months later and we get an email saying the company hopes it doesn’t have to hire DECs next year.

There are still plenty of guys who will only spew negativity. The next recession is right around the corner or the company is now lying about the 1000 hour upgrades coming. All of that is wishing ill will towards your new co-workers. So who has the bad attitude?

701EV 10-08-2019 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2900065)
The next recession is right around the corner or the company is now lying about the 1000 hour upgrades coming. All of that is wishing ill will towards your new co-workers. So who has the bad attitude?

What next recession ??

Do you have inside information

701EV

Jungedrache 10-08-2019 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by 701EV (Post 2900084)
What next recession ??

Do you have inside information

701EV

Recessions are a matter of “when” it happens not “if”. They are 8-10 year economic cycles and we are on the 10th since the last big one (if you count from when we started recovering)

Will it be as bad as the 2008-2009? Most likely not

MooseAg03 10-08-2019 06:54 AM

He was listing examples of negativity that guys keep repeating, not saying he knows a recession is coming.


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watch 10-08-2019 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2899945)
Someone doesn't want to answer the question. You seem to have a bad attitude. Unfortunately some of the loudest people to proclaim this job is easy are also not very good at the job. Myself and others have been seeing this from some of the new hires a lot more lately.

I guess if you find the job difficult, that is your experience and it is valid. Unfortunately at a major airline it will likely be even harder. I see why you are so passionate about higher pay here, are you considering a career at XJT?

CPPfacts 10-08-2019 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by watch (Post 2900173)
I guess if you find the job difficult, that is your experience and it is valid. Unfortunately at a major airline it will likely be even harder. I see why you are so passionate about higher pay here, are you considering a career at XJT?

Why do you say it is harder at a major airline?

watch 10-08-2019 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by CPPfacts (Post 2900193)
Why do you say it is harder at a major airline?

I'm more curious to learn about the challenges these pilots find mentally or physically demanding. I could be ignorant to a significant part of my job, and mistaking it as easy while the whole time I was just fouling it up.


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