Yo-Nited CPP
08-04-2019, 07:25 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
We can tell you have no fight in you. Stop crying about our pilots not giving into management.
08-04-2019, 08:55 AM
#24
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Nope, it’s the fact that people here are underpaid, overworked and have no attachment to the mainline partner. They are sick and tired of being beaten down. United ruined a lot of good will with the CPP (17% success rate) and they refuse to negotiate letter 2 which they promised to do. The pilot group agreed to the accelerated negotiations in order to get the 175 program up and rolling in record time.
Funny how they scrutinize our pilots about “integrity” but can’t even uphold that value themselves. Promises were made and not kept!
Adding some 175’s won’t fix the multiple issues here which are lower pay, bad QOL and no real movement from the top which stagnates things horribly (not easy fix).
The issues here are not easy fixes but United/Expressjet doesn’t even seem to be attempting a fix in any way. They will continue to watch things deteriorate.
People are just done, lanyards have nothing to do with it.
Funny how they scrutinize our pilots about “integrity” but can’t even uphold that value themselves. Promises were made and not kept!
Adding some 175’s won’t fix the multiple issues here which are lower pay, bad QOL and no real movement from the top which stagnates things horribly (not easy fix).
The issues here are not easy fixes but United/Expressjet doesn’t even seem to be attempting a fix in any way. They will continue to watch things deteriorate.
People are just done, lanyards have nothing to do with it.
08-04-2019, 10:18 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Where does the 17% number come from? Is that an actual verified statistic?
08-04-2019, 04:38 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
It’s the number that have successfully navigated the CPP out of the total that were here when it was announced. Calling it a success rate is somewhat misleading
08-04-2019, 06:38 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
I’m just gonna throw this out there... You say to stand united as a pilots union. I want to put something in perspective.
...:We are all prepared to make $3 per hour less than other regional pilots and have a rolled day off here and there. We have the mentality that we are here to make a few sacrifices and move on to better QOL down the road.
Now, we are all on board with having better QOL during our short time at XJT. We are fully supportive of the senior pilot group and their quest for better QOL, to a point.
We all know pilots who are out flying the line not only at XJT but at other regionals as well. Those on here complaining are definitely the minority. By a very wide margin.
So please, wear your lanyards, be angry, get mad and complain standing around in the crew room, whatever. But understand trying to make a public spectacle about how bad things are at XJT and how everyone hates it here is not only false, it is divisive. You are the ones creating the divide.
...:We are all prepared to make $3 per hour less than other regional pilots and have a rolled day off here and there. We have the mentality that we are here to make a few sacrifices and move on to better QOL down the road.
Now, we are all on board with having better QOL during our short time at XJT. We are fully supportive of the senior pilot group and their quest for better QOL, to a point.
We all know pilots who are out flying the line not only at XJT but at other regionals as well. Those on here complaining are definitely the minority. By a very wide margin.
So please, wear your lanyards, be angry, get mad and complain standing around in the crew room, whatever. But understand trying to make a public spectacle about how bad things are at XJT and how everyone hates it here is not only false, it is divisive. You are the ones creating the divide.
08-04-2019, 07:26 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
Who, exactly, is “we”?
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