It would be nice to see some improvement in the efficiency of trips. I see a lot more soft time and short flying days than expected. This is not every day or most days, and many pilots would find a light schedule like that attractive. Some want as much soft time or shortest days possible.

Example: 1 hour flight, 4 hour sit, and 1.5 hour deadhead. For the day. I actually was at work for 6 and a half hours, but only flew 1 and was paid for 4.

Trip and duty rigs would inventivise the company to give efficient and productive trips. Efficient trips would mean more time off for pilots (but busier days at work), or same time off and more block/credit. Everyone profits.

The schedulers are great people who work hard, this is no disparagement to them.

Building hours is fine and dandy, but rolled days off, sub-par pay, etc. isn’t the way to get there. Everyone on 12 days off or fewer isn’t the way forward, either.

Pilots aren’t as plentiful as they were, and you need a solid company first to incentivize some or many to hang around, as unpalatable as that may sound. Stability is going to win this race , not hourly chaos with minimum staffing and high turnover.

What this man said^ The other two have figured have figured that out and are reducing their feeders and improving the quality of the operation. That also includes the quality of pilot candidates. We are hiring many 55+ yr olds who may make it through training or not.

Basically, if you have a pulse and the others turned you down. Try Mesa or Expressjet.

Nobody in my class is 55 or older.


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I know know two folks who’ve gotten turned down by XJT within this past year. They had a pulse, might have been a weak one though 🤷*♂️

K, 50 or older.

Seeing as how I’m the most senior, you’re still over a decade off.


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Your facts don’t fit his rhetoric

Care to explain this? Sounds like a comment that assumes older pilots are worse.

Sure, without getting into ageism or anything divisive or rude. Most of the older pilots in that range have been out of the industry or never in the industry and have been flying small planes around for years with little to no flight instruction given or dual pilot situations.

Additionally, it's no surprise that as we get older it becomes more difficult to learn and/or adapt to new training as people get stuck in their ways and are less sharp as they age.

This is not true with everyone and much of success in training (both ground, sim and IOE) depends on someone's effort put forward. This is true with any age group. Young and older.

United, Delta and American target most people in the early to mid thirties to early 40's with turbine PIC time. If you have a problem with that you should ask their HR department about it. Will leave it at that.