You can always go to endeavor and wait 4 years to get the interview

Just got a text from a FO who I did his IOE, he passed the Aviate interview and is in pool.

The number provided is simply those who were invited to interview. The overall acceptance rate for the program as a whole becomes far more abysmal once other factors are applied.

Not everyone enrolled will be invited to interview and continue the process. Applications are reviewed on a case by case basis and many don’t make the cut allowing the candidate to progress to the next step. For these candidates, the process ends there. A conditional job offer from ExpressJet and an offer to interview through the Aviate program are not mutually exclusive.

Additionally, many pilots aren’t even eligible to apply due to being unsuccessful in the previous CPP program.

Lastly, pilots will be turned down at the very last minute during the final review process after a successful interview. Many of these cases have yielded zero evidence of disciplinary action, non-accepted sick calls or other infractions in their employee work files. This is after significant time, money and resources are expended by the employee to be successful in the program and after safely flying thousands of United’s passengers, many as pilot in command.

The Aviate program is in no way comparable to the flow-through at AAG regional carriers. The initial interview (Envoy, PSA, Piedmont) is the only interview the candidate will see. If successful, they will flow to American Airlines barring any current disciplinary action in their employee file.

This is significant in the fact that the pilot knows from day one of Indoc that they will be transitioning to American when their seniority number arrives. The same cannot be said for successful candidates in the Aviate program.

Pilots turned down during any stage of the Aviate program have expended significant time away from family in hotels during initial training (3-5 months straight), opportunity cost in the way of lost seniority at a future carrier, and in many cases they have accepted tens of thousands of dollars in sign-on bonuses which must be paid back should they decide to leave for greener pastures. In many cases this monetarily handcuffs pilots to continue to fly passengers for an airline which ultimately did not accept them.

The Aviate program is a recruitment tool designed to bring prospective candidates through the door to staff United’s regional feed. In many cases candidates are misinformed about the process by recruiters and lead to believe their chances are much higher than they actually are. For them, this program is seen as a bait-and-switch tactic. A large number of new hires have left the school house in the initial days of training once this reality is made known.

Prospective candidates should thoroughly educate themselves on the good, bad and ugly of the Aviate program and proceed forward accordingly.

It’s a LITTLE disingenuous to say that people will be turned away at final review for no reason. While that DID happen with the CPP towards the end, there has been no anecdotal evidence to support that this program will be the same. I would say a healthy level of skepticism is appropriate, but what you’re saying about the final review hasn’t happened yet.

Yeah I agree. It’s probably a VERY small percentage and I’ve been out in the field enough already to see people call in for ALOT of reasons other than being sick. It ruins it for the good ones. Don’t believe the sob stories you hear from other pilots. If United denied them , I’m sure it’s for good reason.

Spin two: I agree with some of your points as well.

Yeah...”yet”.......

The only reason an employee should miss work is because they were sick? Life happens. Pilots are not immune to that.

XJTFO, how long have you been at ExpressJet?

701EV

So you are saying only 35% are getting invited to interview? Seriously dude why don’t you give up your 5 months of seniority and go to Envoy if this place is so bad?

I interviewed 12/12 and got the acceptance call last night.