SpinTwo

Be advised the initial success rate of the Aviate program is under 35%. A conditional job offer received from ExpressJet does not necessarily mean a new hire candidate is qualified nor competitive in the Aviate program.

Additionally, prospective candidates can and will be turned down during the final review after successfully passing the Aviate interview due to things that are possibly outside of their control.

Among many reasons, an ill timed illness around a Holiday, training event, before or after a vacation, etc. is enough to get a pilot turned down in the final review, among many other conditions. This unnecessarily puts pressure on pilots to fly when they may not be fit for duty.

Many times pilots are turned down in the final review with zero documented disciplinary action or previous mentioned sick calls. Chief pilots are left scratching their heads when reviewing the pilot’s work file and no explanation is given.

In short, Aviate is not a “direct path” to United nor a “flow” in any way. The initial success rate of the program is very poor. The Aviate program is a new name on a flawed and failed previous program in the CPP.

MooseAg03

These reasons are exactly why I did not apply. They tried to push everyone into applying quickly with the First In First Out gimmick. I have a feeling some of those that don’t get a CJO will be looking to make a lateral move. So much for being a recruiting tool.


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CPPfacts

The AVIATE program is just like the failed CPP program. Most pilots don’t make it and then are asked to continue to fly United passengers in United airplanes....United HR is smoking crack if they think this will work.

DirkDiggler

The dumpster fire is burning strong at XJT.

NovemberBravo

Whoa and 5-6 months they’ll start the final reviews and we’ll see how many make it through after that.

Question is will guys start to walk.

CllgGrvAC

Hopefully that's the action people take. I don't want to see good pilots leave here, but how else will the company (XJT & United) get the message? A TBNT letter from our only "partner" is the equivalent of them saying we're not good enough to have dinner with them, but why don't you be a good sport and cook our dinner anyway?

Arliss

I did their little online prescreen when I was still there. While in training at my ULCC I got the invite to interview. Felt great being able to hit delete.

XJTFO

There are many who make it through the program and end up at United. There are many people who are fantastic pilots with somewhat sour attitude towards their jobs and mostly the ones being weeded out. United knows everyone can fly , they are looking for those who can and will drink the kool aid and have a good attitude towards service to company and customer. There are also so many fantastic people that should be flying for United and aren’t. That’s just the way it is in all industries.

backtoregionals

That AVIATE program is a damn joke. It’s pure BS. I lost all desire or hope of flying for that company. There are better airlines out there.

XJTFO

35% odds is the highest of any job on earth that pays what United pays. Flow to American obviously has a higher chance but that was a route no one here chose. They still hold that flow over your head. Talk to your friends at Envoy/PSA and ask how they feel about their companies that pay better than us and give them a “guaranteed “ job at American.