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Old 12-17-2019, 04:04 PM   #1  
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Default Aviate Pass Rate Under 35%

Be advised the initial success rate of the Aviate program is under 35%. A conditional job offer received from ExpressJet does not necessarily mean a new hire candidate is qualified nor competitive in the Aviate program.

Additionally, prospective candidates can and will be turned down during the final review after successfully passing the Aviate interview due to things that are possibly outside of their control.

Among many reasons, an ill timed illness around a Holiday, training event, before or after a vacation, etc. is enough to get a pilot turned down in the final review, among many other conditions. This unnecessarily puts pressure on pilots to fly when they may not be fit for duty.

Many times pilots are turned down in the final review with zero documented disciplinary action or previous mentioned sick calls. Chief pilots are left scratching their heads when reviewing the pilot’s work file and no explanation is given.

In short, Aviate is not a “direct path” to United nor a “flow” in any way. The initial success rate of the program is very poor. The Aviate program is a new name on a flawed and failed previous program in the CPP.
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These reasons are exactly why I did not apply. They tried to push everyone into applying quickly with the First In First Out gimmick. I have a feeling some of those that don’t get a CJO will be looking to make a lateral move. So much for being a recruiting tool.

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Old 12-17-2019, 04:22 PM   #3  
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The AVIATE program is just like the failed CPP program. Most pilots don’t make it and then are asked to continue to fly United passengers in United airplanes....United HR is smoking crack if they think this will work.
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Old 12-17-2019, 04:42 PM   #4  
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The dumpster fire is burning strong at XJT.
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Old 12-17-2019, 06:37 PM   #5  
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This program is a scam.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:24 AM   #6  
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Whoa and 5-6 months they’ll start the final reviews and we’ll see how many make it through after that.

Question is will guys start to walk.
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:39 AM   #7  
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Whoa and 5-6 months they’ll start the final reviews and we’ll see how many make it through after that.

Question is will guys start to walk.
Hopefully that's the action people take. I don't want to see good pilots leave here, but how else will the company (XJT & United) get the message? A TBNT letter from our only "partner" is the equivalent of them saying we're not good enough to have dinner with them, but why don't you be a good sport and cook our dinner anyway?
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:03 AM   #8  
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I did their little online prescreen when I was still there. While in training at my ULCC I got the invite to interview. Felt great being able to hit delete.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:01 AM   #9  
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There are many who make it through the program and end up at United. There are many people who are fantastic pilots with somewhat sour attitude towards their jobs and mostly the ones being weeded out. United knows everyone can fly , they are looking for those who can and will drink the kool aid and have a good attitude towards service to company and customer. There are also so many fantastic people that should be flying for United and aren’t. That’s just the way it is in all industries.
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That AVIATE program is a damn joke. It’s pure BS. I lost all desire or hope of flying for that company. There are better airlines out there.

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