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Originally Posted by HotDogSonicBoom
(Post 3021464)
maybe this is more safe to post. Not verified, but it’s something that seems kind of reputable
https://skift.com/2020/04/02/united-...ick-snap-back/ sk: we’re going to be conservative and grow slowly also sk: we want to be in position to take advantage of available market share from our competitors reductions and snap back to 100% as quick as possible he doesn’t know anymore about the future of the airline than the rest of us. I feel better now. |
United is taking a similar wait-and-see approach on aircraft and has not made plans to permanently ground any fleet type, Kirby said. Still, he said the cramped CRJ-200s and Embraer E145s, which fly as United Express, likely won’t stick around long.
“My guess the 50 seaters mostly will be gone, by the end of this,” he said. This comment sounds like the decision might already be made if a quick recovery doesn't happen really, really soon....... |
United should furlough every mainline pilot, park all mainline planes, buy all the E-145s they can for Expressjet, and just service United mainline routes with E-145s and Expressjet pilots. they would save billions.
Not going to happen, but am I wrong. |
Originally Posted by vortacmeatsac
(Post 3021554)
Alex, is that you?
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Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane
(Post 3021623)
my name isn't Alex, its simple monetary policy... many experts would tell you the same thing. It is not hard to take time to study history and history of fiat currencies. Not one fiat currency ever has survived throughout history. The Us Dollar is not immune. Anyone with a brain will know that pumping trillions of dollars per day into markets while countries dump the dollar will lead to massive inflation. Thats basic common sense, atleast i thought. Im trying to warn you guys and just say get some gold, food etc because this is not just a normal recession that you will see. It's all im saying... its not gonna be good.
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Originally Posted by watch
(Post 3021618)
United should furlough every mainline pilot, park all mainline planes, buy all the E-145s they can for Expressjet, and just service United mainline routes with E-145s and Expressjet pilots. they would save billions.
Not going to happen, but am I wrong. |
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3021651)
yes. You’re wrong. American and Delta would get all the business, because people hate your airplanes.
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I just don’t think United would pull those now 4 175’s back over to ExpressJet that are already at SkyWest. SkyWest has the pilots and will always have the pilots to staff. After Mesa announced the purchase of 20 175’s I think that pretty much sealed it for us when it came to those. I’m sure it even surprised United. SkyWest pulled their You Owe Us” card and got our 25 175’s because they were supposed to get the next dual cabin 70 seaters. I’ve heard SkyWest and Mesa are already interviewing for classes in May/June...probably take it with a grain of salt of course. But things just aren’t looking too good for us.
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Originally Posted by watch
(Post 3021618)
United should furlough every mainline pilot, park all mainline planes, buy all the E-145s they can for Expressjet, and just service United mainline routes with E-145s and Expressjet pilots. they would save billions.
Not going to happen, but am I wrong. |
Originally Posted by watch
(Post 3021618)
United should furlough every mainline pilot, park all mainline planes, buy all the E-145s they can for Expressjet, and just service United mainline routes with E-145s and Expressjet pilots. they would save billions.
Not going to happen, but am I wrong. |
Originally Posted by Fdelanore
(Post 3021676)
the last thing anyone wants is more express jet pilots, biggest group of whiney babies out there...
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Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
(Post 3021654)
I I’ve heard SkyWest and Mesa are already interviewing for classes in May/June...probably take it with a grain of salt of course. But things just aren’t looking too good for us.
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
(Post 3021765)
A grain of rock salt...XJT is still issuing CJO’s too. Skywest has a pool of applicants they have postponed and need to put back into training. It’s too early to tell if this comment was actual management plans, or lip service to the UAL pilot group. Our TH is on Saturday so I’ll be interested in hearing how SK and SH respond. Not that I will believe it either.
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Will ExpressJet survive this?
Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
(Post 3021765)
A grain of rock salt...XJT is still issuing CJO’s too. Skywest has a pool of applicants they have postponed and need to put back into training. It’s too early to tell if this comment was actual management plans, or lip service to the UAL pilot group. Our TH is on Saturday so I’ll be interested in hearing how SK and SH respond. Not that I will believe it either.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk SK and SH will keep us here until the fire burns out. Just like Compass did to their group until they got told they were done at the end of the month. Giving us some type of hope to cling on. |
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 3021551)
One is ownership of the jets.. SkyWest and Republic own most of there jets.. Second is cost to move them over, or cost to acquire more 80-76 seat jets. (UA doesnt have the Capital and “shell companies” like C5/XJT don't have the credit or capital.. Plus more RJ won’t even be needed in 6months-3 year time frame... just bad luck. Good luck to us all..
Have you considered the debt associated with “owning” all those planes? Why do you think that arrangement is appealing to mainline carriers in the first place? It takes more cash flow to feed that monster. Republic and SkyWest are by no means safe. |
Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
(Post 3021877)
Have you considered the debt associated with “owning” all those planes? Why do you think that arrangement is appealing to mainline carriers in the first place? It takes more cash flow to feed that monster. Republic and SkyWest are by no means safe.
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When you say own you mean they are not making payments.
A lot of airlines purchased planes planning on having the block hours to pay for them. |
Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf
(Post 3021877)
Have you considered the debt associated with “owning” all those planes? Why do you think that arrangement is appealing to mainline carriers in the first place? It takes more cash flow to feed that monster. Republic and SkyWest are by no means safe.
OO/RP are in no means safe at all. OO sold XJT for 70 million cash and assumption of certain debt.. United is burning more cash/loss of revenue per day then the cost of The XJT purchase.. would they be in a good position to and more to that right now.. were all just as screwed.. good luck to us all especially the 50 seat operators... |
I can always count on coming to this site to listen to mostly young dorky guys, who’s first job in life is flying an RJ, pretending to be the CEO of some of the world’s largest companies, telling us the secrets and sage wisdom going on behind the curtains.
My popcorn’s ready. |
Originally Posted by Sky5
(Post 3021728)
all they do is sh*t and squawk..
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Originally Posted by Fly4fishing
(Post 3021280)
Hey all, just want to clarify the above comments...since I am a new hire and have had my training put on hold. Should I consider alternate options? I want to wait on XJT, however I also know that things are so fluid at the moment that I am not promised anything.
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Originally Posted by stang
(Post 3022138)
I would say this is true for any pilot anywhere. A lot of us wont be flying anytime soon, hope you can find alternates but even those still flying need to consider alternates.
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Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
(Post 3021830)
SK and SH will keep us here until the fire burns out. Just like Compass did to their group until they got told they were done at the end of the month. Giving us some type of hope to cling on.
Yes they will... The question is will it be a slow burn or a California wildfire? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
How much have your schedules been cut for April and May?
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Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane
(Post 3021503)
This is the first time the whole world has been shutdown at once in history... unfortunately the damage has been done, while the media and everyone wants us focused on the virus, we are on the verge of a global great depression where the destruction will be talked about in history books 100 years from now. the majority of major airlines will lose 50-60% of their seniority lists and regionals will basically be shutting the doors. Sadly, the virus will seem like a picnic on the beach compared to what is around the corner. The fiat currency/petrodollar could possibly crash from this destroying the standard of living for majority of americans. The fiat currency system was so corrupted for so long and our founders warned us about this.... you are sadly watching the end of america. We were warned about this for sooo long and nobody listened, but here we are... this is not a blue or red thing either. Hug your family, get your guns and if you have extra cash laying around buy some Gold and Silver. Every time fiat currencies failed throughout history, Gold won every time... stock up on Gold, Guns, and Silver and food..... The so-called conspiracy theorists don't seem like nutjobs anymore LOL
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
(Post 3022313)
How much have your schedules been cut for April and May?
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
(Post 3022481)
hard to say but probably 70%
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3022680)
United’s shell companies are getting hit hard as well as AA and Delta’s WO...
You’re an unhappy narcissistic troll. |
Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3022680)
United’s shell companies are getting hit hard as well as AA and Delta’s WO...
And those GoJet 550’s are just burning up the sky. If Scott Kirby parks the 50 seat fleet. G7 is done, and SW will have to displace a bunch of CRJ2 pilots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
COLA offered for May through July now
jesus |
Just looking at our flow board alone, I’d say 70-75% of our planes are parked.
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
(Post 3023061)
COLA offered for May through July now
jesus |
Originally Posted by PeakEGT
(Post 3023113)
where’d you see this?
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
(Post 3023108)
Just looking at our flow board alone, I’d say 70-75% of our planes are parked.
So is every other airline. What’s your point? |
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
(Post 3023108)
Just looking at our flow board alone, I’d say 70-75% of our planes are parked.
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Originally Posted by Rodviyr
(Post 3022057)
I can always count on coming to this site to listen to mostly young dorky guys, who’s first job in life is flying an RJ, pretending to be the CEO of some of the world’s largest companies, telling us the secrets and sage wisdom going on behind the curtains.
My popcorn’s ready. |
Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR
(Post 3022874)
You should be a clairvoyant. Everyone is being effected greatly. SkyWest already furloughed 110 students from their training center. Even though they don’t call it a furlough.
You’re an unhappy narcissistic troll. |
Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3023169)
I guess if they did furlough they don’t need the bail out LOAN that has to be paid back back. Good position to be in!
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Originally Posted by SeeYa
(Post 3023061)
COLA offered for May through July now
jesus |
Originally Posted by SeeYa
(Post 3023195)
so Melit, What do you think UX will look like in a year
Never to return |
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