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Originally Posted by uipilot45x
(Post 3034871)
Okay, but any troll worth his weight should at least try to answer a simple question.
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Originally Posted by uipilot45x
(Post 3034895)
He especially doesn’t know how to deliver a punchline.
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Originally Posted by BusBoy88
(Post 3034957)
The guy is like 50 plus and hates life because he never made it to the big leagues. He'll also probably try to tell you he didn't move on because "not everyone wants to work for mainline". But everyone on here knows his personality is what would preclude him from moving on to one of the more sought after jobs.
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3034951)
He’s not going to answer because he knows he will get edited or banned for it.
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Good morning..
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Originally Posted by HotDogSonicBoom
(Post 3034974)
Honestly, what makes any of us think s/he actually has a job? I wouldn’t be surprised if the person maybe used to fly but doesn’t anymore. All s/he does is go into every forum and disrupt it. They really have no life
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3035018)
Disrupt as in tell the truth? You guys weren’t thumping your chest about taking Mesa’s 175’s?
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
(Post 3034928)
For what it's worth, at YX, we received word yesterday we will not be doing any flying for UA in IAH or DEN for at least the next three months. I know the situation is fluid, but it's kind of difficult to imagine UA doing that if they intend on letting XJT fly west, as it were.
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Originally Posted by DBono
(Post 3035083)
Longhorn, I've been wondering whether the YX/OO model of owning all/most of their airplanes in this environment is as much of an advantage as people seem to think. Seems to me the key question is how much is financed and what is the cost of servicing those notes? Those are fixed costs that don't rise and fall with the amount of flying. Any feel for this for YX and OO?
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And off loads the responsibility from the Major partner.. Allows UA/DL/AA to not have that debt when there seeking credit...
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3034723)
There is no reason.
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
(Post 3035272)
I’ll tell you what’s funny. Somebody working for Mesa acting strong. Mesa will always be Mesa.
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Originally Posted by simscott
(Post 3035091)
I would think owning their own planes provides collateral for restructuring or loans needed.
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Originally Posted by DBono
(Post 3035479)
Thus the question of how much they still owe on the planes. If the plane is registered to you, you're considered the owner, but if you borrowed 80% of the value to buy it and have only paid back a little of that, then there is not much equity left to serve as collateral.
It was this thinking that informed my earlier post. Maybe some of these outfits that own their planes are the ‘underwater homeowners’ caught unemployed in 2008. In which case there might be some really cheap airframes available as they pawn some off in distressed times to save the company. Not a pretty picture but one I’m thinking more about. |
Sure owning your own (financed) aircraft means the bank and not your customer is the one to shut you down. Pros and cons.
What is abnormal about this, what would a bank do with planes nobody in THE WORLD can fill right now? Repo and storage would have an associated cost. Until there is a buyer somewhere in the world a banks bet is to be made whole later by the current owner. |
Originally Posted by Softpayman
(Post 3035272)
I’ll tell you what’s funny. Somebody working for Mesa acting strong. Mesa will always be Mesa.
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3035787)
Thanks for proving my point. Karma! This is the only group that openly trash talks other pilot groups. Mesa, GoJets and Skywest. ManAir doesn’t even own a tug... lol
Interesting...you must not hangout in the AA WO forums |
Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
(Post 3035866)
Interesting...you must not hangout in the AA WO forums
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3035787)
Thanks for proving my point. Karma! This is the only group that openly trash talks other pilot groups. Mesa, GoJets and Skywest. ManAir doesn’t even own a tug... lol
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Originally Posted by uipilot45x
(Post 3035894)
There you go with ManAir again. What’s the dig? Where’s the punchline?
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Manair is a river in India. Maybe this human is from that part of the world and is longing for the old country.
https://youtu.be/yQ7c6FK8jgA |
Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3034813)
so you admit it ?
Here’s a question you can answer. Why are you a 50+ year old regional lifer? |
Originally Posted by sMFer
(Post 3036289)
Here’s a question you can answer. Why are you a 50+ year old regional lifer?
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for reference, Republic’s 2019 Q2/3 staffing cost was 271 million. All airlines were awarded 76% of what they requested to spread the 25 billion evenly through all that requested it. So while ExpressJet may not have received any money, I’m sure the money is allocated. It’s a mater of your management and the treasury coming to an agreement on executing all of this. Same thing with us.
Originally Posted by KCaviator
(Post 3033365)
According to our CEO, every regional is under $100 million except YX and OO. For whatever it’s worth.
EDIT: Clearly didn’t see the post right above this. BB spreading #FakeNews. Expressjet operates 50 seaters, they are no longer our competitor. He never made the claim that “every regional” was below 100 mil. |
SEC. 4112. PANDEMIC RELIEF FOR AVIATION WORKERS. (a) FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR EMPLOYEE WAGES, SALARIES, AND BENEFITS.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, to preserve aviation jobs and compensate air carrier industry workers, the Secretary shall provide financial assistance that shall exclu- sively be used for the continuation of payment of employee wages, salaries, and benefits to— (1) passenger air carriers, in an aggregate amount up to $25,000,000,000; (2) cargo air carriers, in the aggregate amount up to $4,000,000,000; and (3) contractors, in an aggregate amount up to $3,000,000,000. (b) ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary, may use $100,000,000 of the funds made available under section 4120(a) for costs and administrative expenses associated with providing financial assistance under this subtitle. What is the significance of $100,000,000 that is being discussed in this thread? |
Originally Posted by Tpinks
(Post 3036332)
Expressjet operates 50 seaters, they are no longer our competitor.
Do you think Wendy’s and Taco Bell are not competitors because their food options are different? They are certainly competing for your dollar budgeted for food. If you truly believe your statement please stick to operating planes and never apply to manage anything. Your employees will deserve better. |
Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3032279)
ManAir didn’t get it. United didhttps://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm977
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Originally Posted by gatorhater
(Post 3036729)
That is a VERY short sighted view. The majors allocate flying and if Regional A can do it at a better value than Regional B the plane will move.
Do you think Wendy’s and Taco Bell are not competitors because their food options are different? They are certainly competing for your dollar budgeted for food. If you truly believe your statement please stick to operating planes and never apply to manage anything. Your employees will deserve better. |
Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
(Post 3035866)
Interesting...you must not hangout in the AA WO forums
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
(Post 3036880)
Could it be that he meant they won’t be a competitor because of the statements that United has made regarding 50 seat flying? Currently, 76 seat and 50 seat operators fight for the same scraps, but if United did away with 50 seat flying, then a 50 seat only operator would go away and no longer be competition.
The fact remains, until there is a definite announcement they better treat each other as the competition or someone is going to get caught with their pants down and not like the result. Maybe Xjet, SkyW, Mesa...who knows but it’s time for mgmt to keep their head on a swivel. |
Unfortunately, Mesa will never go away. The industry will always need a barometer to help measure where the absolute bottom of the industry is, both in cost and quality. They're a cockroach living though the apocalypse.
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
(Post 3036986)
Unfortunately, Mesa will never go away. The industry will always need a barometer to help measure where the absolute bottom of the industry is, both in cost and quality. They're a cockroach living though the apocalypse.
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3037011)
In June they pick up MKE-IAH with the 175’s.
In July in will be a E-145XR :) 701EV |
Originally Posted by Itsajob
(Post 3036880)
Currently, 76 seat and 50 seat operators fight for the same scraps....
Sounds to me like mainline is left with the scraps, while UAX is gnawing on the main course. 🤮 |
Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3037030)
I read the “town hall” transcripts, and it said we (UAL) we’re down 70% and UAX was down 40%.
Sounds to me like mainline is left with the scraps, while UAX is gnawing on the main course. 🤮 |
Originally Posted by AboveMins
(Post 3036986)
Unfortunately, Mesa will never go away. The industry will always need a barometer to help measure where the absolute bottom of the industry is, both in cost and quality. They're a cockroach living though the apocalypse.
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Why aren’t you guy’s ****ed at United? They let you use their 175’s for a second, then said no more and passed them on.
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
(Post 3036986)
Unfortunately, Mesa will never go away. The industry will always need a barometer to help measure where the absolute bottom of the industry is, both in cost and quality. They're a cockroach living though the apocalypse.
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
(Post 3036986)
Unfortunately, Mesa will never go away. The industry will always need a barometer to help measure where the absolute bottom of the industry is, both in cost and quality. They're a cockroach living though the apocalypse.
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 3037098)
It’s Karma. You guy’s should never have said your talking Mesa’s airplanes! Especially since you have no money!!!
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