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SeeYa 04-20-2020 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037098)
It’s Karma. You guy’s should never have said your talking Mesa’s airplanes! Especially since you have no money!!!

50+ years old and you don’t know the difference between your and you’re. Pathetic

AboveMins 04-20-2020 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037070)
You mad bro? At least Mesa has money to buy airplanes! C5 got some bail out money. Did your staffing company get some? Be thankful United is letting you fly there airplanes..For now! Customer’s would rather be on the175’s.

Nah, I don't have a dog in this anymore. I left the bumfight known as the regionals over two years ago to haul boxes, and don't regret it one bit. By the way, you may want to look up the difference between "there" and "their". I guess Mesa doesn't hire the sharpest tools in the shed after all. ;)

AboveMins 04-20-2020 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 3037105)
50+ years old and you don’t know the difference between your and you’re. Pathetic

Reference my previous post about tools in the shed. :D

AboveMins 04-20-2020 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037098)
It’s Karma. You guy’s should never have said your talking Mesa’s airplanes! Especially since you have no money!!!

Talking airplanes? Ya don't say... Do you have long conversations about stock market trends or love making tips with them? Haha, this guy is a crack up.

Melit 04-20-2020 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037102)
Do you even know what is going on?? You don't even have to tell me what airline you fly for because everything is coming down. Oil just crashed today, you are going to be on the street and you are here laughing at Xjt, get ready for the streets, cause thats where we all are heading! You won't be laughing pretty soon

wrong ghost rider. I’m gonna be on the street? You have no clue! I made the right moves. Seriously? We all are heading for the streets? Why Would you say that? Yes I’m laughing at XJET. You’re to new to know the history

Melit 04-20-2020 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 3037109)
Talking airplanes? Ya don't say... Do you have long conversations about stock market trends or love making tips with them? Haha, this guy is a crack up.

You get the point right? If not go to school.

Melit 04-20-2020 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 3037105)
50+ years old and you don’t know the difference between your and you’re. Pathetic

That’s all you got? How is working for a staffing company? You like flying United’s airplanes?

Melit 04-20-2020 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 3037109)
Talking airplanes? Ya don't say... Do you have long conversations about stock market trends or love making tips with them? Haha, this guy is a crack up.

Why did United take the 175’s away?

Flydafe 04-20-2020 10:17 PM

Why is oil crashing a big deal? Cheaper fuel is good right?

HighWingingIt 04-20-2020 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037127)
Why did United take the 175’s away?


So they can move it to another staffing company so we can staff the other planes the other staffing company couldn’t staff

moonraker9 04-21-2020 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 3037141)
Why is oil crashing a big deal? Cheaper fuel is good right?

Yes cheaper fuel is good but the reason why it's cheap is why it is also a bad thing. No demand, too much supply.

CPPfacts 04-21-2020 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 3037141)
Why is oil crashing a big deal? Cheaper fuel is good right?

It’s not a good thing in this case. It’s indicating how bad the problem is.

AboveMins 04-21-2020 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037127)
Why did United take the 175’s away?

Honestly, it's none of my concern why they took them away, since I have nothing to do with that dirtbag airline, or any of their regionals anymore. But I'd venture to say, since United likes to concentrate on penny pinching over all else, they were shopping the corner and Mesa was the cheapest trick they could find. Cheap tricks usually come with nasty surprises later. ;)

LoneStar32 04-21-2020 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 3037227)
Honestly, it's none of my concern why they took them away, since I have nothing to do with that dirtbag airline, or any of their regionals anymore. But I'd venture to say, since United likes to concentrate on penny pinching over all else, they were shopping the corner and Mesa was the cheapest trick they could find. Cheap tricks usually come with nasty surprises later. ;)

you do know what Skywest took those jets, not Mesa right?

AboveMins 04-21-2020 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3037230)
you do know what Skywest took those jets, not Mesa right?

Nope. Haven't been keeping up with the bumfight. Same concept, different airline then. Still doesn't change the fact that Mesa is a bottom feeder.

klondike 04-21-2020 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037112)
wrong ghost rider. I’m gonna be on the street? You have no clue! I made the right moves. Seriously? We all are heading for the streets? Why Would you say that? Yes I’m laughing at XJET. You’re to new to know the history

“You’re (too) new to know the History”

fixed it for you.

You’re Welcum

Melit 04-21-2020 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by HighWingingIt (Post 3037151)
So they can move it to another staffing company so we can staff the other planes the other staffing company couldn’t staff

You’re uninformed. They went to OO. Not only do they own most of their airplanes, hangers, ground equipment, sims and some gates they are also a leasing company.

ReadOnly7 04-21-2020 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037286)
You’re uninformed. They went to OO. Not only do they own most of their airplanes, hangers, ground equipment, sims and some gates they are also a leasing company.

*hangars

since you like detail so much.

LoneStar32 04-21-2020 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 3037246)
Nope. Haven't been keeping up with the bumfight. Same concept, different airline then. Still doesn't change the fact that Mesa is a bottom feeder.

Then you shouldn’t be commenting on things you know nothing about.

ReadOnly7 04-21-2020 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 3037227)
Honestly....I have nothing to do with that dirtbag airline, or any of their regionals anymore.

Translation.....they didn’t hire me, so I hate them now. I get it....but I do get sick of this mindset. I actually know you....personally. We went to the same flight school, regional, etc...and you KNOW you wanted to work for UAL and would have gladly done so. Be thankful you didn’t, since we are all screwed now....but the sour grapes chest thumping gets old and makes you look just as bad as the airline you love to hate.

HighWingingIt 04-21-2020 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037286)
You’re uninformed. They went to OO. Not only do they own most of their airplanes, hangers, ground equipment, sims and some gates they are also a leasing company.


I think it is you that’s uninformed

AboveMins 04-21-2020 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3037334)
Translation.....they didn’t hire me, so I hate them now. I get it....but I do get sick of this mindset. I actually know you....personally. We went to the same flight school, regional, etc...and you KNOW you wanted to work for UAL and would have gladly done so. Be thankful you didn’t, since we are all screwed now....but the sour grapes chest thumping gets old and makes you look just as bad as the airline you love to hate.

No sour grapes at all, and I don't hate them. Just calling them what most of the traveling public sees them as. I'd be lying if I said that UAL wasn't a goal of mine years ago, but after seeing how poorly they treated XJT, my mind changed. I'm thankful for where I'm at, and I feel sorry for the good folks over there that are getting shafted by this crisis. Nothing against the pilots, I have a lot of friends there. Honestly, I don't really care what I look like to anyone. Think whatever you want, opinions are like ***holes- everyone has one, and they all stink. :D

AboveMins 04-21-2020 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3037327)
Then you shouldn’t be commenting on things you know nothing about.

Probably not. LOL

Delsol 04-21-2020 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by CPPfacts (Post 3037219)
It’s not a good thing in this case. It’s indicating how bad the problem is.

If you're buying oil it might be good in the very short term. Long term, disastrous.

The problem is that the current oil price is well below the cost of production for many producers, particularly in the USA. Oil extraction from many US oilfields, particularly shale, is expensive compared to just pumping it out of the ground. This will cause many producers to simply go out of business. The producers that will be left will be those with very low costs of production-like Saudi Arabia for example.

Once demand for oil returns, and it will, there will be far fewer producers and they will keep tight control over production to keep prices high. OPEC did this in the 1970s and they will do it again. We could see $100 oil in a few years, so if you could plan your aircraft network, you would take that into account and keep the most fuel efficient aircraft.

pangolin 04-21-2020 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 3037141)
Why is oil crashing a big deal? Cheaper fuel is good right?

At least American and United sell jet fuel. They both own refineries and pipelines.

Delsol 04-21-2020 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3037470)
At least American and United sell jet fuel. They both own refineries and pipelines.

You sure about that? Delta owns the Trainer refinery in PA, but has been trying to sell it.

sMFer 04-21-2020 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037073)
Why aren’t you guy’s ****ed at United? They let you use their 175’s for a second, then said no more and passed them on.


Better question. Why are you a 50+ year old regional lifer, spending your days trolling other airline boards. Get outta moms basement, meet someone and move on!!!

Bluesteal 04-21-2020 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3037112)
wrong ghost rider. I’m gonna be on the street? You have no clue! I made the right moves. Seriously? We all are heading for the streets? Why Would you say that? Yes I’m laughing at XJET. You’re to new to know the history

Correct Ghost rider.... this isnt some random recession you are about to see. You are seeing the beginning of something your grandma hasnt even witnessed in her lifetime! The world is closed, we are month or two away from a massive great depression and yes, the airlines will literally be destroyed along with 95% of the people around the world. Oil producers are seriously paying to get rid of their oil, never has that ever happened. We will be seeing massive furloughs and job losses, employment rate will be in the 40% I have tons and tons of Gold and other HARD assets, so if you have no Gold you have made no right moves! The US dollar is toast and so are you! GET READY FOR THE STREETS PAL!! I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS!! ALL THE BUBBLES HAVE BEEN POPPED!! IM WELL PREPARED!!

pangolin 04-21-2020 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Delsol (Post 3037525)
You sure about that? Delta owns the Trainer refinery in PA, but has been trying to sell it.

You are right. I’m wrong.

say again 04-21-2020 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037550)
Correct Ghost rider.... this isnt some random recession you are about to see. You are seeing the beginning of something your grandma hasnt even witnessed in her lifetime! The world is closed, we are month or two away from a massive great depression and yes, the airlines will literally be destroyed along with 95% of the people around the world. Oil producers are seriously paying to get rid of their oil, never has that ever happened. We will be seeing massive furloughs and job losses, employment rate will be in the 40% I have tons and tons of Gold and other HARD assets, so if you have no Gold you have made no right moves! GET READY FOR THE STREETS PAL!! I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS!! ALL THE BUBBLES HAVE BEEN POPPED!! IM WELL PREPARED!!

Cool story

pangolin 04-21-2020 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037550)
Correct Ghost rider.... this isnt some random recession you are about to see. You are seeing the beginning of something your grandma hasnt even witnessed in her lifetime! The world is closed, we are month or two away from a massive great depression and yes, the airlines will literally be destroyed along with 95% of the people around the world. Oil producers are seriously paying to get rid of their oil, never has that ever happened. We will be seeing massive furloughs and job losses, employment rate will be in the 40% I have tons and tons of Gold and other HARD assets, so if you have no Gold you have made no right moves! The US dollar is toast and so are you! GET READY FOR THE STREETS PAL!! I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS!! ALL THE BUBBLES HAVE BEEN POPPED!! IM WELL PREPARED!!

How many calories in an ounce of Gold?

Bluesteal 04-21-2020 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by say again (Post 3037554)
Cool story

ahhhh... ignorance at its best.. I love to watch people so brainwashed thinking everything gonna be ok. You guys really have no idea whats going on in this world do you? How long do you think the Dollar/fiat currency/petro dollar can last for?? LOL i bet you never even heard of the petro dollar hahah

say again 04-21-2020 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037564)
ahhhh... ignorance at its best.. I love to watch people so brainwashed thinking everything gonna be ok. You guys really have no idea whats going on in this world do you? How long do you think the Dollar/fiat currency/petro dollar can last for?? LOL i bet you never even heard of the petro dollar hahah

cool story, part 2

Bluesteal 04-21-2020 12:52 PM

Common guys! lets get with it! study your history, study the history of fiat currencies you cant just print trilions and trillions and trillions of dollars and expect everything will be ok. We are at the end of the fiat currency. Turn off the tv, this bubble has been created for decades and now all the supply chains are collapsing.. there is no way to expand the dollar. You all should have extra food, guns, gold, you are witnessing the end of your dollar. The dollar will be replaced at sooner than later, what that currency will be is the question, but people holding the bag of dollars will end up broke. Get your families prepared, this is no normal recession on the way.

LoneStar32 04-21-2020 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037572)
Common guys! lets get with it! study your history,

I thought you said this was unprecedented? That means it hasn't happen before so past practices may not work. What is history going to tell you? Keep contradicting yourself.

AboveMins 04-21-2020 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3037334)
We went to the same flight school, regional, etc...and you KNOW you wanted to work for UAL and would have gladly done so.

I'm interested to find out which flight school you think we went to together. I bounced around a few FBOs back in the late 90's/early 2000's, and don't think we were ever at the same one.

itsmytime 04-21-2020 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037572)
Common guys! lets get with it! study your history, study the history of fiat currencies you cant just print trilions and trillions and trillions of dollars and expect everything will be ok. We are at the end of the fiat currency. Turn off the tv, this bubble has been created for decades and now all the supply chains are collapsing.. there is no way to expand the dollar. You all should have extra food, guns, gold, you are witnessing the end of your dollar. The dollar will be replaced at sooner than later, what that currency will be is the question, but people holding the bag of dollars will end up broke. Get your families prepared, this is no normal recession on the way.

cool story, part 3.

Bluesteal 04-21-2020 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3037630)
I thought you said this was unprecedented? That means it hasn't happen before so past practices may not work. What is history going to tell you? Keep contradicting yourself.

LOL!! You have no idea what im talking about... this hasn't happened in OUR time, but the history of monetary policy shows that ZERO Fiat currencies have survived longer than 50 years. Fiat currencies always FAIL everytime. You expand the system and then when it can't expand(debt), it collapses! That is what I mean by history. Incase you didnt know, this system has been setup to fail. This virus didnt cause this problem, the problem has been 50 years in the making. The virus was just the prick to pop the bubble. If it wasn't the virus it would have been something else. You just watched Oil collapse, the dollar is tied to oil, there is no demand for oil, there will be no demand for dollars and the FED continues to print trillions of dollars with no demand... You may have heard of Thomas Jefferson? He warned about this.. Get ready for massive deflation(already beginning) followed by massive hyper inflation. Sadly, the standard of living for most americans will plummet. Fiat currencies has been around for centuries and 100% Fail... Gold wins every time. The world will have no choice but to go back to the Gold standard (pre 1971) once this mess is over and it's not gonna be pretty. But hey, i meet people everyday alot are pilots and so many seem awake and aware and have been preparing, i guess its just you and a couple others. Im here to be nice and tell you that you still have some time, not much but get prepared.

PS... This current system we are in, is part of the reason we fought the American Revolution LOL

Itsajob 04-21-2020 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesteal (Post 3037768)
LOL!! You have no idea what im talking about... this hasn't happened in OUR time, but the history of monetary policy shows that ZERO Fiat currencies have survived longer than 50 years. Fiat currencies always FAIL everytime. You expand the system and then when it can't expand(debt), it collapses! That is what I mean by history. Incase you didnt know, this system has been setup to fail. This virus didnt cause this problem, the problem has been 50 years in the making. The virus was just the prick to pop the bubble. If it wasn't the virus it would have been something else. You just watched Oil collapse, the dollar is tied to oil, there is no demand for oil, there will be no demand for dollars and the FED continues to print trillions of dollars with no demand... You may have heard of Thomas Jefferson? He warned about this.. Get ready for massive deflation(already beginning) followed by massive hyper inflation. Sadly, the standard of living for most americans will plummet. Fiat currencies has been around for centuries and 100% Fail... Gold wins every time. The world will have no choice but to go back to the Gold standard (pre 1971) once this mess is over and it's not gonna be pretty. But hey, i meet people everyday alot are pilots and so many seem awake and aware and have been preparing, i guess its just you and a couple others. Im here to be nice and tell you that you still have some time, not much but get prepared.

If the apocalypse that you preach ever does come I’d be willing to bet that my bullets would win over your gold.

Bluesteal 04-21-2020 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3037774)
If the apocalypse that you preach ever does come I’d be willing to bet that my bullets would win over your gold.

hahah, You dont think I have guns and ammo too? haha atleast you got that, ill give you that hope you got food too at the end of the day we all on the same team as americans,


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